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[Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 14 June 2016 at 11:51, Felipe Salvador <felipe.salvador@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> owaqQHYU                   GGGklm, 4b  n tue, jun 14, 2016 at 08:37:34am
> +0100, gareth france wrote:
> > i just wanted to say thanks to the facebook team for breaking the website
> > for me. where is the logic behind removing the ability to message people
> for
> > anyone who doesn't have an apple or android device? oh and the message
> > asking me to download the app is just pouring salt into the wound by the
> > way!
> >
> > --
>
> So a proprietary services provider doesn't share his services with FOSS
> community. Old story, I'm not surprised at all.
>
> On the other hand, I'm surprised that Ubuntu, as a part of FOSS community,
> doesn't endorse projects like Diaspora, GNU Social (but also XMPP and
> other open
> protocols/standars) and so on, with an official implementation.
>

The reason that the FOSS social web hasnt taken off is endorsement of
products that dont scale and you end up replacing one silo with another.

>
>
> There's a lot of opportunity in FOSS, trace your path in freedom Ubuntu,
> be the
> free (as in freedom) and open alternative.
>

The FOSS social web is a pretty terrible landscape, with 99% trying to
evangelize non interoperable solutions.

The real failure was not to listen to Tim Berners-Lee who explained how to
design the social web the same way as the original web.  Or simply swallow
your pride and clone facebook exactly, but allow cross domain
communication.  Essentially these projects have gone sideways for years,
and will continue to do so.  Hopefully a new breed will bring a solution
closer.

If Ubuntu endorsed something good it would make a difference.  But GNU
social and diaspora are not it.  In fact I did talk to mattl about building
the social tier of GNU social, but I just didnt have enough resource and so
the largely abandoned status.net was inherited.

Free software and ubuntu need a first class social experience.  I think the
way forward is more along the lines of everyone owning their own data on
their OS (phone, tablet, desktop, server) and then allowing those data
stores to start to communicate with each other.  Maybe if a revamped Ubuntu
One was added at some point in the future, and adopted, say, Solid.  There
would be real potential.  I hope to get time to build it, but probably
would need the next LTS cycle to make it mature enough to use.


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