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[David Planella <david.planella@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>From the conversation on IRC:

- As Aron is mentioning in his comment, this bug affects all languages, not only Simplified Chinese
- It's caused by mixing a stock button (with shortcut) with a non-stock one (without shortcut)
- Someone needs to make a decision on how to best fix it

<dpm> cjwatson, stgraber, the Chinese translators didn't seem to happy about adding a shortcut on the translation where there isn't one in the original string. I've asked them to comment on the bug
<cjwatson> I kind of wonder why we don't have a shortcut on that msgstr to match GTK, in some ways
 maybe it's also used in the KDE frontend though?
<stgraber> dpm: I can definitely understand that, though the reason for the bug is that they added it for all the other ones in gtk ...
 dpm: so they should either add the shortcut for that one too or remove all of these they added for all the gtk stock buttons
 dpm: otherwise you get an inconsistent installer UI
<dpm> stgraber, I'm not sure I quite follow why the shortcut appears in one button and not in the other. Is it because the Back one is stock and thus has a shortcut, and the Continue one is not stock and doesn't have one?
 if so, would it not be better to add a shortcut in the Continue button in the source code?
<cjwatson> stgraber: well, no, the "Continue" string is in ubiquity proper but the others are imported from GTK
<cjwatson> dpm,stgraber: yeah, on inspection, this string is shared with KDE which I'm fairly sure has different shortcut conventions
<cjwatson> so I don't think it can be as simple as adding _, even in the translation
* cjwatson tries to remember why the stock labels weren't good enough
<cjwatson> It would read "Forward" rather than "Continue"
<cjwatson> but it does seem illogical to use stock labels for one thing and not another, in the same button bar
<cjwatson> maybe check with mpt?
<cjwatson> our back/forward button handling doesn't look desperately consistent in general
<mpt> dpm, I don't know why the stock string was never changed. Probably because it was inappropriately shared with (for example) the navigation buttons in browsers, where you do want just "Back" and "Forward"
<dpm> mpt, what do you think the best way to solve that bug and be consistent should be? Both stock buttons with shortcut, or both non-stock buttons?
<mpt> dpm, I think the best way would be to make the keyboard combo for going to the next step Enter, and the keyboard combo for going to the previous step Esc.
<dpm> mpt, cjwatson, that's probably a solution for +1, though, right? ^ Is there anything that can be done at this point in the cycle, or should the bug be wontfix for oneiric and precise?
<cjwatson> mpt: I thought that was in general the case anyway, but it's not very discoverable so people missed it
<mpt> cjwatson, if something isn't discoverable, I try to make it more discoverable before adding a second thing :-)

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/892386

Title:
  No shortcut available for "forward" button for Chinese during
  installation / oem-config

Status in OEM Priority Project:
  Confirmed
Status in OEM Priority Project oneiric series:
  Triaged
Status in Ubuntu Translations:
  Triaged
Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  For installations where Simplified Chinese is the default language,
  there is no shortcut available for the Forward Button in either the
  installer or during oem-config.  There are shortcuts for Back (B) and
  Quit (Q).  Chinese users can press Alt+B or Alt+Q to move backward or
  quit the installation, but, there's nothing that will allow them to
  press Alt+F to move forward.   I have attached a photo as an example
  of what the user sees.

  Steps to reproduce:

  1) Install Ubuntu 11.10 and select Simplified Chinese as the language.

  Actual Results:
  During installation (or oem-config) there is no shortcut available for the forward button.

  Expected Results:

  In addition to being able to quit, cancel, or go backward, the user
  should also have an (F) on the button and press Alt+F to move forward
  through the installation.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10
  Package: ubiquity (not installed)
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-13.22somerville1-generic 3.0.6
  Uname: Linux 3.0.0-13-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: wl
  ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu3
  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Sat Nov 19 06:31:10 2011
  DistributionChannelDescriptor:
   # This is a distribution channel descriptor
   # For more information see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributionChannelDescriptor
   canonical-oem-somerville-oneiric-amd64-20111116-1
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.10 "Oneiric" - Build amd64 LIVE Binary 20111116-18:24
  ProcEnviron:
   LANGUAGE=zh_CN:zh
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: ubiquity
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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