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[Nick Andrik <nick.andrik@xxxxxxxxx>]

** Description changed:

- I have Ctrl+Shift set to layout switch and press ctrl+shift+N (to open
- new Terminal or new tab in Opera) -- as a result I have my keyboard
- layout switched. This happens because Ubuntu (or XOrg?) change layout on
- key press instead of release and do not match layout hotkeys with
- application shortcuts. MS Windows do. If layout change hotkeys is
- pressed with another key this must be treated as application shortcut
- and layout must not be changed. Combined with shortcut bugs in some
- Linux applications [Bug 2561] this makes keyboard shortcuts nearly
- unusable in default bilingual configuration.
+ This is a bug about shortcuts mapped to combinations which include each
+ other.
+ 
+ For example, if we have Ctrl+Shift (for keyboard layout) and Ctrl+Shift+N (to open a new terminal), then we are practically unable to use the second shortcut; this is what happens:
+ Ctrl press  (nothing happens)
+ Shift press (keyboard layout change)
+ N (a simple N appears, since a shortcut has already fired)
+ 
+ The expected behavior is to fire shortcuts on the release (not on press)
+ of the special keys (ctrl,shift,alt, etc) which is also how Windows
+ behave. This is a serious problem for bilingual layouts, typically using
+ Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift for keyboard layout change.
+ 
+ 
+ For users being affected by this problem, the easiest solution for now is to add this PPA in your repositories:
+ https://launchpad.net/~oded-geek/+archive/xorg-patches
+ 
+ 
+ Practical summary of this bug for ubuntu developers (since reading 120 comments is impractical for most):
+ This problem is a really old (since 2004) issue of the xkb part of xorg; the main discussion was made upstream in freedesktop-bugs #865. There has been a patch from Ilya Murav'jov for upstream (#55), and attached here (#61).
+ Upstream xorg has refused to apply the patch, mainly because it "explicitly contradicts the (xkb) spec"  (#84, #91).
+ This patch has been reported to work for many people without any problems, and there is also a PPA by Oded Arbel (#95) where he maintains a patched version of the ubuntu xorg.
+ The proper resolution of this bug would be to apply this patch in the upstream xorg, or at minimum to the official ubuntu xorg package.

** Description changed:

** Description changed:

  This is a bug about shortcuts mapped to combinations which include each
  other.
  
  For example, if we have Ctrl+Shift (for keyboard layout) and Ctrl+Shift+N (to open a new terminal), then we are practically unable to use the second shortcut; this is what happens:
  Ctrl press  (nothing happens)
  Shift press (keyboard layout change)
  N (a simple N appears, since a shortcut has already fired)
  
  The expected behavior is to fire shortcuts on the release (not on press)
  of the special keys (ctrl,shift,alt, etc) which is also how Windows
  behave. This is a serious problem for bilingual layouts, typically using
  Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift for keyboard layout change.
  
- 
  For users being affected by this problem, the easiest solution for now is to add this PPA in your repositories:
  https://launchpad.net/~oded-geek/+archive/xorg-patches
  
- 
  Practical summary of this bug for ubuntu developers (since reading 120 comments is impractical for most):
- This problem is a really old (since 2004) issue of the xkb part of xorg; the main discussion was made upstream in freedesktop-bugs #865. There has been a patch from Ilya Murav'jov for upstream (#55), and attached here (#61).
+ This problem is a really old (since 2004) issue of the xkb part of xorg; the main discussion was made upstream in freedesktop-bugs #865. There has been a patch from Ilya Murav'jov for upstream (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/36812/comments/55), and attached here (#61).
  Upstream xorg has refused to apply the patch, mainly because it "explicitly contradicts the (xkb) spec"  (#84, #91).
  This patch has been reported to work for many people without any problems, and there is also a PPA by Oded Arbel (#95) where he maintains a patched version of the ubuntu xorg.
  The proper resolution of this bug would be to apply this patch in the upstream xorg, or at minimum to the official ubuntu xorg package.

** Description changed:

  This is a bug about shortcuts mapped to combinations which include each
  other.
  
  For example, if we have Ctrl+Shift (for keyboard layout) and Ctrl+Shift+N (to open a new terminal), then we are practically unable to use the second shortcut; this is what happens:
  Ctrl press  (nothing happens)
  Shift press (keyboard layout change)
  N (a simple N appears, since a shortcut has already fired)
  
  The expected behavior is to fire shortcuts on the release (not on press)
  of the special keys (ctrl,shift,alt, etc) which is also how Windows
  behave. This is a serious problem for bilingual layouts, typically using
  Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift for keyboard layout change.
  
  For users being affected by this problem, the easiest solution for now is to add this PPA in your repositories:
  https://launchpad.net/~oded-geek/+archive/xorg-patches
  
  Practical summary of this bug for ubuntu developers (since reading 120 comments is impractical for most):
- This problem is a really old (since 2004) issue of the xkb part of xorg; the main discussion was made upstream in freedesktop-bugs #865. There has been a patch from Ilya Murav'jov for upstream (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/36812/comments/55), and attached here (#61).
+ This problem is a really old (since 2004) issue of the xkb part of xorg; the main discussion was made upstream in freedesktop-bugs #865. There has been a patch from Ilya Murav'jov for upstream (#55), and attached here (#61).
  Upstream xorg has refused to apply the patch, mainly because it "explicitly contradicts the (xkb) spec"  (#84, #91).
  This patch has been reported to work for many people without any problems, and there is also a PPA by Oded Arbel (#95) where he maintains a patched version of the ubuntu xorg.
  The proper resolution of this bug would be to apply this patch in the upstream xorg, or at minimum to the official ubuntu xorg package.

** Description changed:

  This is a bug about shortcuts mapped to combinations which include each
  other.
  
  For example, if we have Ctrl+Shift (for keyboard layout) and Ctrl+Shift+N (to open a new terminal), then we are practically unable to use the second shortcut; this is what happens:
  Ctrl press  (nothing happens)
  Shift press (keyboard layout change)
  N (a simple N appears, since a shortcut has already fired)
  
  The expected behavior is to fire shortcuts on the release (not on press)
  of the special keys (ctrl,shift,alt, etc) which is also how Windows
  behave. This is a serious problem for bilingual layouts, typically using
  Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift for keyboard layout change.
  
  For users being affected by this problem, the easiest solution for now is to add this PPA in your repositories:
  https://launchpad.net/~oded-geek/+archive/xorg-patches
  
  Practical summary of this bug for ubuntu developers (since reading 120 comments is impractical for most):
  This problem is a really old (since 2004) issue of the xkb part of xorg; the main discussion was made upstream in freedesktop-bugs #865. There has been a patch from Ilya Murav'jov for upstream (#55), and attached here (#61).
  Upstream xorg has refused to apply the patch, mainly because it "explicitly contradicts the (xkb) spec"  (#84, #91).
  This patch has been reported to work for many people without any problems, and there is also a PPA by Oded Arbel (#95) where he maintains a patched version of the ubuntu xorg.
- The proper resolution of this bug would be to apply this patch in the upstream xorg, or at minimum to the official ubuntu xorg package.
+ The proper resolution of this bug would be to apply this patch to the upstream xorg, or at minimum to the official ubuntu xorg package.

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Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812
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