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> Why not Russian?
Because most of Russian-speaking peoples use two keyboard layouts. It's obvious.

> sometimes people discuss it in English. Like we are doing it here, right now.
We are doing it here right now in English only because it's bugtracker.

> I am most willing to find out some different way of the reality check.
I not sure I understand you right - please rephrase this sentence.

> ???? GNOME 2 had that for years! IIRC GNOME3 (gnome-shell) has it as well.
Has it not enabled by default (at least in Gnome 3). I download Fedora 16 to check situation around keyboard indicator in latest Gnome release before write previous commentary.
Also about "default" http://www.uie.com/brainsparks/2011/09/14/do-users-change-their-settings/ - for most of users "not enabled by default" mean "not exist". So while we talking about this issue I think count only KDE users make sense - because KDE users have this feature enabled by default.

> And would you please refrain from starting "KDE vs GNOME" show right here.
If I wanted something like that then I would not mention Unity. This option indeed is not available for Unity and I didn't notice it in Gnome because it's not enabled by default. Sorry for this my mistake, but that didn't change situation a lot - just compare it with Unity and KDE from point of view user who have three keyboard layouts. Only in one DE this feature enabled by default, in another one available after turning it on in, I don't know where, maybe in gconf (where is it this feature may be turned on?), and not available in most popular DE at all. Then users of only one DE (not two or three) can notice (just "notice", not "understand" or "report") situation around problem with keyboard layout switch order.

> and I have good working relations with KDE kbd maintainer FWIW
I know that and I also want to say thank you for conversation with Harald.

> Well, I really do not know. For some reason the option was created that way. Why? God knows (it was long ago). People are used to it.
You are at least admit there is no one other reason to keep current behavior except because it's there for years. No one, no one. Okay, this is good start.

> I totally understand that it is uncomfortable for you.
How different keyboard layout switch order for keyboard shortcut and keyboard indicator (by click) can be comfortable? I trying to imagine that for two weeks but still without success. There is any logical explanation of this possible phenomenon except "people are used to it"? (I ask about it because, you know, peoples may used to even uncomfortable software - Windows is proof of that.)

> What I want is something that would convince me that enough people want that change.
As I say before I can not create discussion in most popular Linux forum in ex-USSR (create discussion in other forum make no sense). Anything I can about this topic it's a talk here. You ask about some "users, expressing their interest". But where I can find they? Then I can only ask you use developer logic:

> But that cannot be considered as a reason to change anything.
Isn't switch order shouldn't depend on current keyboard shortcut? Isn't that should be separate option by design? 
(And usability logic:) Isn't different order with default shortcut in many distributions itself is a problem? 

> I would not, however, object to having to change my config
Thanks you for opinion, James.

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