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[nomnex <nomnex@xxxxxxxxx>]

Panasonic Driver

Hi, thank you very much for your answer. It brings much clarity. I was
slow to answer because I did some research in the meantime.
Nevertheless, it is bit technical for my understanding. May I ask your
advice to help me go along the process. Disclaimer: English is my second
language. I master it very imperfectly. Thank you to take it in
consideration.

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First: Your bug report "Upstream" - what does mean Upstream in the
Ubuntu terminology (vs. the bug report in Launchpad)?

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22771

Eric Anholt says: [...] The batchbuffer dump doesn't conclusively point
to the bug I just fixed [...] Please re-open if the bug persists [...]

I don't see any link to a patch or other indication and as stated in
your message - sadly, there is little to expect on this side.

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I can use the tutorial "Reverting the Jaunty Xorg intel driver to
2.4" (as you did), however before doing so, you would mind following the
links below and tell me if any of them could be relevant to our Intel
driver problem?

A. Title: ATI unsupported cards in jaunty: full effects:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1164013

B. How To Fix Freezes in Ubuntu on hp 540 - simlar complain and a work
around
http://ubuntu.igameilive.com/2009/05/how-to-fix-freezes-in-ubuntu-on-hp-540.html

Maybe a topic of interest (C and D are related)

C. HOWTO: Jaunty Intel Graphics Performance Guide
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582

Although the disclamer looks like a stopper - I use an external
boardband wirless card btw.
"*Disclaimer: Using a third-party kernel means that you will no longer
have access to "restricted" drivers such as FGLRX, NVIDIA, some Broadcom
wireless chipsets, certain webcams and a handful new sound cards that
require restricted firmware to function. If you believe that you have
restricted hardware on your machine, you should continue using the
official Jaunty kernel - in other words, stick to the Safe
configuration."

D. X Updates on Launchpad (see title and link E below):
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates

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Thanks you again for your time and patience.

Marc
Tel +81 90 2106 17 20
Tel. marc-424@xxxxxxxxxxxx

PS: The Celeron cpu/ram (512 max) and display of the CF-W2 model are not
suitable for gaming. However I do watch Divx movies in my spare time. If
I go above a size of 340x240, the movie turns dark and freeze. This is
not normal. Do you think using old driver might solve the problem? And
correct if I am wrong, but movies are 2D? In your message you talk about
3D, but 3D is only about modern computer games - like brutal chess
http://sourceforge.net/projects/brutalchess/


On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 04:23 +0000, Mike Rose wrote:
> Hi Nomnex,
> I'm no ubuntu bugsmith, so I don't know if you should be asking for
> advice or not here, but I'm happy to give it. :)
> 
> If you follow that link you talk about, it will give you instructions on
> how to revert to the older version of the display driver. This older
> version is still fine and I haven't yet found any issues. It is,
> however, not very fast at 3D. If you're into gaming, I'd suggest
> having/keeping a dual boot with windows as you won't get very good
> performance out of the 855 under linux (well, under anything really, but
> windows will be better). I also suggest you turn off visual effects
> (system -> preferences -> appearance -> visual effects -> none) but you
> can try without and see if it's fast enough for you.
> 
> It seems that this bug has been submitted upstream and for some reason,
> subsequently closed, even though the bug has not been fixed.
> <rant>
> It's the unfortunate state of affairs that some driver/software
> developers don't want to hear about bugs in their code and seem to react
> with derision towards anyone reporting. Possibly this is the case here,
> I don't know. I can understand their frustration though, as it seems
> that too many newcomers to linux don't understand how FOSS works and
> treat the developers as if they *should* or *have to* help them. It can
> be frustrating to both parties, however everyone needs to remember that
> the developers are putting in their own time and effort for free and
> have no obligation to do *anything* for *anyone*.
> </rant>
> 
> I have given up hope on this bug being fixed and will continue to use
> the 2.4 drivers until it's time to upgrade my laptop. Hopefully these
> older drivers remain compatible with future X changes until this time.
> 
> If you want to take this bug further, I'm sure someone else subscribed
> to this bug report will be able to direct you in the right direction.
> Just remember the point above; in this community, the developers are
> considered gods and justifiably so. For a developer to fix this bug is
> to do you a favour so try to avoid getting angry or frustrated if they
> decline.
> 
> I hope this helps. :)
> 
> Mike
> 
> On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 04:02 +0000, nomnex wrote:
> > @Mike Rose and everybody on the thread.
> > 
> > Hi, glad I found this thread. I am fairly new to Ubuntu and certainly
> > less experienced than any of you. I use Jaunty on a Panasonic Let's note
> > model CF-W2 I bought in Japan a few years ago (Intel chipset must be
> > very close to CF-R3).
> > 
> > I experience exactly the same symptoms: Random freezes (the machine is a
> > little sluggish a few minutes before). The mouse can move on screen. The
> > only way to recover is to operate a cold-boot.
> > 
> > It is very frustrating since I do love using Linux Ubuntu (vs. M$). Do
> > you mind if I ask for help on the thread? Do I have to follow a link:
> > Reverting the Jaunty Xorg intel driver to 2.4 - and if I do will I
> > experienced any graphic change - or do I have to install Karmic (but
> > reading the thread freezes still occur).
> > 
> > Sorry, I am not helpful to the thread, I only ask for advice/help.
> >
> 
> -- 
> [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292
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> of the bug.
> 
> Status in X.org xf86-video-intel: Fix Released
> Status in “xserver-xorg-video-intel” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
> 
> Bug description:
> Running Jaunty on a Panasonic CF-R3 notebook with intel 855GM graphics chipset and pentium M processor. X (running compiz) will completely freeze seemingly randomly (fairly often though - easily 5 times a day), necessitating a hardware restart (or REISUB) although the mouse pointer is still responsive and disk activity is still continuing. Another generic intel driver freeze it would seem.
> 
> I've tried the usual suspects with no avail:
> happens on both UXA and EXA
> with and without "MigrationHeuristics" "greedy"
> 
> Turning DRI off seems to fix the issue though.
> 
> Taking a look at my /var/log/kern.log, it seems that every time these lockups occur i'm getting a kernel log error of:
> Apr 29 12:49:26 mike-laptop kernel: [ 1032.985907] mtrr: no MTRR for e8000000,8000000 found
> 
> [lspci]
> 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller [8086:3580] (rev 02)
>     	Subsystem: Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. Device [10f7:8338]
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device [8086:3582] (rev 02)
>     	Subsystem: Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. Device [10f7:8338]
>

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[i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292
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