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[Doug Morse <dm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I am sympathetic to both Dan Burke's and Sandro Mani's points of view.
I agree with Dan that this affects way too many folks to just be left
be.  On the other hand, I agree with Sandro that there's not much Ubuntu
developers can do about it re: closed-source drivers.  I also think
Sandro makes a fine point that all 205 of us should be contacting the
vendors -- not just our own vendor, but all of us take the time to
contact all three (or more) major driver writers (i.e., ATI, Nvidia,
Virtualbox).

That said, I strongly feel that the easier we make it for these vendors
to fix the problem, the more likely we'll get what we want and get it
sooner.  Put differently, I think we need to give them as much specific
and accurate information as possible.

This where things break down for me.  I've not read all 237+ posts, but
I get the sense that no one knows for sure what's wrong, but many have
suggested a change in the xorg server -- specifically concerning how
xdamage events are handled -- seems the most likely cause.  But do
really know this for sure?  We'll hurt our own cause if we send them
down a garden path.

I suspect a useful approach is simply to tell the vendors (a) what the
problem is and (b) that we don't know for sure what the problem is, but
that (c) we do know what was done to fix the problem within xorg, vino,
and/or the open source drivers (and give the detailed information
thereof).

So, my question is, can anyone tell me -- as concisely but also as
accurately as possible -- what (c) is?  In other words, what *do* we
know about changed (and where) to cause the problem, and what *do* we
know has been changed to correct things (and where), at least on the
open-source side of things?

If some folks can answer this for me, I for one would be happy to write
some email templates and help organize a simple email campaign.  I for
one want this fixed.  And even the effort doesn't succeed, I feel I'll
learn something about the vendors.  I run Ubuntu 9.10 on several
machines, including both Nvidia and ATI machines, and I use VirtualBox
routinely.  If one vendor is more responsive then the others re: getting
a fix out, then I'll be more likely to buy their products next time.

Doug

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