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On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Tim <darkxst@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> On 19/12/14 15:37, Carlos Vinícius Ferrer wrote:
> >
> > Hello everybody,
>

Hi,


> >
> > I understand perfectly what you wrote and I apologize for the hasty
> creation of the group. In the description of the group I made a point to
> > say that the group is unofficial Ubuntu GNOME group and just deleted the
> image with the logo. But if you believe it is better to delete the
> > group, I can delete.
> >
> I don't see any problem for this group to exist as unofficial community,
> as long as your careful of the points that Keith made.
>

Ditto.

As long as these 'unofficial' groups whether on facebook or google+
(communities as what google label it) follow the notes that Keith suggested
(which myself and Tim agree on), I too see no harm but scourge to create
more with different languages.


>
> Tim
> >
> > I'm enjoying being part of Ubuntu GNOME team and what's best for the
> team, I will do.


You just need to make sure you can handle these group because from our
side, I'm afraid we can't handle more channels at the moment and above all,
we don't speak other languages.

@Artwork Team
Could you please be so kind and create a banner for this group? you can
send me the SVG file once done so I could change it every time we need that
:)

Make it looks like as unofficial banner possible :P

If that's too much, then perhaps Carlos needs to come up with his own
banner?




> Now, Im going to sleep because it is too late in Brazil
> > and I'm tired.
> >
>

Sleep well and once you wake up, let me know so we could share the link of
that group so hopefully more people from Brazil could join ;)



> > Thanks, guys. And sorry again...
>

No need to be sorry!
We thank you for your great support ;)



> >
> > Em 19/12/2014 02:06, "Keith I Myers" <keithiokepamyers@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:keithiokepamyers@xxxxxxxxx>> escreveu:
> >
> >     Good Morning All,
> >     First, sorry for my slow responses, I am in the process of
> remodeling the house and my desk is still not put back together. That is my
> >     goal for tomorrow. I wanted to weigh in on this a bit, forgive me
> for rambling but this is to encourage discussion.
> >
> >     Ubuntu has always been a distribution that valued the community as a
> whole, and by extension, Ubuntu Gnome should also share this value.
> >     Communities can be both officially sanctioned by the Ubuntu GNOME
> team as well as by community members as unofficial communities. With
> >     this said, there are a few limits that need to be respected,
> regardless of the decision.
> >
> >       * Canonical owns trademarks to the Ubuntu branding and the use of
> it in unofficial communities may be frowned upon.
> >       * If the group were to give the illusion of an official community,
> control of the community should be in the hands of the Ubuntu GNOME
> >         team rather than an individual person.
> >       * If the group were to exist as an unofficial annex to the Ubuntu
> GNOME main communities, then it would need to mention that as such.
> >         All logos would need to be used in accordance to the Ubuntu
> Branding Guidelines.
> >       * Having communities of like minded users who speak the same
> language is always a good thing. It will instill a comfort level with newer
> >         users and help to attract more users to the cause.
> >       * Unofficial communities should not post their own "Official
> Announcements" however should be welcomed to re-share content (translated)
> >         linking back to the official post.
> >
> >     TL:DR - I personally feel that this should exist as a unofficial
> group, this would require a modification to the logo (and I have some
> >     ideas if you wish). I am astonished that you managed to gain 15
> users so fast and this shows that there is clearly a need for such a
> >     group. Localized groups are a great thing however this would be very
> difficult for the Ubuntu GNOME social media team to moderate as we do
> >     not have speakers in every language that we do users.
> >
> >     Thoughts?
> >
> >     On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Ali/amjjawad <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >         On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Carlos Vinícius Ferrer <
> carlosvferrer@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:carlosvferrer@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >             Good evening, folks.
> >
> >
> >         Hi Carlos,
> >
> >
> >
> >             I came here to inform you that today I created the Facebook
> group called 'Ubuntu GNOME Brasil' with the intention of exchanging
> >             experiences with other Brazilian Ubuntu GNOME users and also
> for disclosure, marketing and recruiting new volunteers.
> >
> >             Within hours, we are already the mark of 15 people in the
> group.
> >
> >             This is the link:
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/288751181335120/
> >
> >             If you have any suggestions of how to run the group, please
> write here.
> >
> >
> >         While I sure do know this came from pure and good intention to
> help us grow bigger worldwide, my one and only concern is how these
> >         sites/channels will be administrated?
> >
> >         Our official channels are:
> >         https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs
> >
> >         Any other channel that is not listed under:
> >         https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs
> >
> >         IMHO, we can't 'yet' call it official or belong to us. Thus,
> using any banner or logo that belongs to Ubuntu GNOME and then of course
> >         Canonical might not be the wise move.
> >
> >         But, this is unexpected move. When you ask people to help
> translating your document into their native language, they would think of
> >         creating such group which I totally understand and appreciate of
> course.
> >
> >         I think, we need some guidelines in this regard. Such efforts
> must be (IMHO) under the official LoCo Team of Ubuntu on that country.
> >
> >         Let's see what Keith and others have in mind about this and
> maybe we need a quick meeting OR a discussion over here because I'm sure
> >         more will come soon (similar groups).
> >
> >
> >
> >             Thank you, guys.
> >
> >
> >         Thank you very much!
> >
> >
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