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[Benjamin Humphrey <humphreybc@xxxxxxxxx>]

Conscious User:

"1) Communicating the goals and current status to end users. The amount
of people who think the messaging menu is only a launcher, for
example, is overwhelming. And I cannot really blame them in those
cases. What should I say? "Well, it's obvious if you were subscribed
in the Ayatana list, or saw these technical and developer-oriented
specification wikis or saw this specific post of this developer's
blog whose name you didn't even know until now...""

I agree completely and I know that the design team are very much aware of
this. We're working on improving communication with the community, and you
should see some results of this in the next cycle.

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Paulo J. S. Silva <pjssilva@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Just to make sure you get enough feedback...
>
> Workspaces is the one feature that made me think my Linux desktop is
> clearly superior to windows. The ability to organize niches for
> different uses like work, internet, fun (music and video), and easily
> switch between then is great. Instead of getting rid of workspaces I
> truly believe we should find ways to improve them and present them to
> the masses.
>
> Paulo
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Mark Shuttleworth <mark@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > On 22/04/10 04:27, Robin Anderson wrote:
> >> One important point I hope the design team is aware of and that gets
> >> into discussions on this topic is that minimizing to the "notification
> >> area" / "(not) system tray" is currently a very nice place to put
> >> applications so they're accessible from all workspaces / virtual
> >> desktops even if they aren't necessarily long-running. Ubuntu, for at
> >> least the past several releases, has only had two workspaces on by
> >> default so I take it there isn't much of a focus to get average users
> >> (read: users that don't change default settings) to use them, but they
> >> are quite useful and I'd go so far as to compare them to how a person
> >> feels after using a dual monitor setup for a little while compared to
> >> always using a single monitor.
> >
> > It's a good point. The workspaces experience has languished, and I'd
> > like for us to climb in and improve it substantially. At the moment, we
> > do a half-hearted job - we ship what's there but as you say, only
> > configure two workspaces. I'd be inclined to say "ship without
> > workspaces" so that we are at least definitive about the position for
> > the moment.
> >
> > I'd welcome a discussion about how we could make workspaces *great*. If
> > we can do that, then we would make more of them. And your contribution
> > above is a useful start: great workspaces give you easy access to some
> > apps regardless of the workspace you happen to be in.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
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>
> --
> Paulo José da Silva e Silva
> Professor Associado, Dep. de Ciência da Computação
> (Associate Professor, Computer Science Dept.)
> Universidade de São Paulo - Brazil
>
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