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[Frederik Nnaji <frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx>]

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On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 19:03, Frederik Nnaji <frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Hi Sense,
>
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 18:44, Sense Hofstede <qense@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> During a previous discussion on not adding an application bucket to
>> the Unity launcher somehow the discussion ended up at discussing the
>> behaviour of Rhythmbox integrated in the Sound Menu. When Rhythmbox
>> would be exited while playing or paused it was supposed to keep
>> running in the background while the Sound Menu would show controls and
>> the current song. When Rhythmbox would be exited the state of the
>> music player was supposed to be restored on relaunch, as can be seen
>> at <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu#compliance>.
>>
>> However, in the 'application bucket' discussion someone immediately
>> answered the question whether Rhythmbox actually can persist state
>> between two runs. Answer: no, and it would be a lot of work (read:
>> partial rewrite of some important parts) to support this. So it is not
>> possible to get state saving support for Rhythmbox in Maverick.
>>
>> What to do with this? Should we try to get state saving support in
>> Rhythmbox (and Banshee?!) for Maverick, against all odds? I'm not sure
>> if we want to make potentially destabilising changes to Rhythmbox'
>> code in such a short period of time.
>> That would leave two options: do not try to persist state between two
>> runs of Rhythmbox and scrap that part of the specification, or don't
>> exit Rhythmbox when someone quits it while it is not playing, but keep
>> it running in the background.
>>
>> The latter option would add another running process and would fool the
>> user into believing (s)he would have fully exited the player. It would
>> also mean that some plugins could still be broadcasting the player,
>> even though it should have exited according to the specification and
>> if we use that behaviour consistently across the whole desktop also by
>> the users' expectations.
>>
>>
> With this post, the topic is beginning to ring bells in my head.
> What is playing the song, when Rhythmbox exits? Gstreamer or Rhythmbox?
> If we close the application window, we are not closing Rhythmbox, we're
> only hiding its GUI.
>
> While i'd personally prefer embedding Music Library Management into
> Nautilus (Nautilus elementary+tracker+desktop-is-homefolder+flat
> semantically organized FS), making Rhythmbox quite obsolete (same for
> eMail), i can see the path this is about to take.
>
> Before i spill more beans on how little i actually know about what i'm
> saying here, let me repeat what we have discussed so much now:
>
> remove the close button, hide Rhythmbox into the indicator-sound menu, so i
> can unhide the window via "show Rhythmbox"
>

do this for any app that places itself into the sound menu with controls.
I can imagine
*banshee
*totem
*vlc

to start with..