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[Mark Curtis <merkinman@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

So?
To me it just means more people are following the development of future versions of Ubuntu.
As for staying on topic about the Background (not OMG Ubuntu). I don't see anything in that post on design.canonical.com that says the background is temporary. Though I did see in the comments the only mention of the background, and it wasn't a favorable one.

> From: vish@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: seif@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 22:21:14 +0530
> CC: ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Ayatana] OMG!Ubuntu a bane or a boon? [was]Re: The new default wallpaper
> 
> Before continuing, I'd like to remind that this is the second instance
> within this cycle where a thread here is being brought due to a post on
> the blog. Earlier, it was about the theme.
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 17:50 +0200, Seif Lotfy wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Vishnoo <vish@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >         On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 08:23 -0300, Conscious User wrote:
> >         > Hello,
> >         >
> >         > Some of you might be already aware of the controversy caused
> >         > by the (supposed) new default wallpaper:
> >         >
> >         >
> >         http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/ubuntu-1010-default-wallpaper.html
> >         >
> >         http://humphreybc.wordpress.com/2010/08/29/the-joke-that-is-mavericks-default-wallpaper/
> >         > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/625193
> >         >
> >         > Because no one at the bug report mentioned the problem here,
> >         > despite being repeatedly recommended by Vish to doing so, I
> >         > am bringing up the subject.
> >         >
> >         > Personally, I must admit I have never seem such a heavy
> >         > backlash before.
> >         
> >         Backlash? Where?
> >         Are we now considering the above mentioned blog as a
> >         representative of
> >         the whole Ubuntu community?
> > 
> > 
> > They are Ubuntu users and thus do indeed have to be heard. Unlike most
> > of the "Ubuntu Community" who are active in the Ubuntu scene. The
> > comments from OMG! Ubuntu as well as the launchpad bug comments
> > represent people who are not blessed as Ubuntu community members, yet
> > are part of the Ubuntu eco-system. Maybe we should take their opinion
> > sometimes, especially if its very much heard.
> >  
> >         Some of the comments there are often highly disrespectful to
> >         upstream
> >         GNOME authors and I have personally seen upstream authors take
> >         offense
> >         to the comments on that blog. [at times to the articles too]
> >         And had to
> >         say that those are not the views of the whole Ubuntu
> >         community.
> > 
> > 
> > And when they offend they apologize so we should all get over it
> > already. 
> >  
> >         What worries me is that, if we consider those blog comments to
> >         be a
> >         representative of the whole Ubuntu community, then Upstream is
> >         justified
> >         at being offended.
> >         
> >         There is constructive criticism and there is just
> >         criticism/cynicism.
> >         Anonymity does not give a person the instant right to be rude.
> >         
> >         While it is easy for someone to make a passing comment about
> >         upstreams,
> >         it becomes a waste of time for people who have to interact
> >         with
> >         upstreams.
> >         We could all be more productive if people spent half that
> >         time, they
> >         spend commenting, on something more useful.
> > 
> > 
> > So any comment on something you don't agree with is not productive. I
> > dont know where you are going with changing the subject of the mail
> > but i think its offensive... 
> 
> No, I'm not saying everyone has to agree, as I said there needs to be
> *constructive* criticism. Which is very much welcomed. And it does not
> require a person to be rude. 
> 
> And I'm not talking about the articles themselves, I'm talking about the
> comments since that was the rationale for the bug and the follow-up
> consolidate!
> 
> If I'm to mention about the articles, did anyone verify if it was indeed
> the final wallpaper?  It might well be! But, did anyone verify? Alteast
> before consolidating all the negative comments in one place?
> 
> I ask this now, because the earlier theme article lead to people
> questioning the theme changes *here* on the Ayatana mailing list and as
> we all now know its wasnt the default theme!
> 
> You guys have a good platform but somehow it gets misused[by others]!
> There needs to be a sanity check somewhere. Either better fact-checked
> reporting [obviously people believe what you write] or we disregard
> those comments as the pulse of the community[until something is actually
> true].
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Vish
> 
> 
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