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[Tyler Brainerd <tylerbrainerd@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi there. I'm one of the authors and one of the moderators on OMG. We did,
in fact, delete the most rude comments, and then closed the comments at a
time when it was appropriate to do so. Very, very few of the comments broke
the CoC, and when that got out of hand we closed comments rather then trying
to keep up with every single one. Quite bluntly, people getting their
feelings hurt because their graphic design was called ugly is not against
our CoC, or anybody elses.

That said, our blog is representative of (generally speaking)
non-developing, end user Ubuntu users. A good many of them showed up to
express distaste in the wallpaper, because OMG is the only place that they
bother going. They don't want to sign up at launchpad, or register, or get
verified. But their criticism should not be ignored simply because it was
perceived to be degrading or whatever.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Shane Fagan <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I hate to be the mailing list police but this thread is going really off
> topic. Criticism of OMG!Ubuntu isn't what this list is for. The guys
> could have handled the harsh comments but really its up to them and it
> is a private site so they can do what they want. They have a coc on the
> site for about a month now and they really should have just deleted some
> of the comments or closed the comments earlier.
>
> All that aside this discussion should be taken somewhere else.
>
> --fagan
>
> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 17:45 +0100, Andrew Laignel wrote:
> > You want to see unbridled rude criticism of a level that the upstream
> > developers will never ever experience?  Search for the word 'Microsoft'
> on a
> > FOSS website.
> >
> > Dealing with criticism is simply part of the job and if (the hopefully
> few)
> > developers upsteam are taking offence then that is something they need to
> > deal with.  Users see software as, well, software and often do not
> account
> > for the developer behind it, it's a fact of life and once it is accepted
> you
> > can learn to pick the useful points out of even the most vitriolic posts.
> >
> > I would much rather (as a dev) get mean comments with a nugget of truth
> than
> > pandering praise which ultimately serves no purpose.  Personally very
> rarely
> > is there ever such a thing as truly unconstructive criticism.
> >
> >
> > > On 29/08/2010 16:21, "Vishnoo" <vish@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Backlash? Where?
> > > Are we now considering the above mentioned blog as a representative of
> > > the whole Ubuntu community?
> > >
> > > Some of the comments there are often highly disrespectful to upstream
> > > GNOME authors and I have personally seen upstream authors take offense
> > > to the comments on that blog. [at times to the articles too] And had to
> > > say that those are not the views of the whole Ubuntu community.
> > >
> > > What worries me is that, if we consider those blog comments to be a
> > > representative of the whole Ubuntu community, then Upstream is
> justified
> > > at being offended.
> > >
> > > There is constructive criticism and there is just criticism/cynicism.
> > > Anonymity does not give a person the instant right to be rude.
> > >
> > > While it is easy for someone to make a passing comment about upstreams,
> > > it becomes a waste of time for people who have to interact with
> > > upstreams.
> > > We could all be more productive if people spent half that time, they
> > > spend commenting, on something more useful.
> >
> >
> >
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