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["frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx" <frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx>]

I apologize !

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 20:24, Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 18:33 +0100, frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> *not too short a text*
>
> With all these words, you don't define any single, concrete problem with
> windows as they are. You don't make much of a case for using another
> metaphor for the same thing, as there are no obvious candidates that
> don't already mean lots of things in varying contexts.
>
> You avoid any talk about their properties and behaviors.
>
> A call for transparency because of the name is silly. If windows
> wouldn't be called windows but frobknacks, suddenly transparency
> wouldn't be of value?
>
> You also do not define anything to gain.
>
> If you want to discuss things to discuss things, this is a great start.
>
>
> Now I fully expect a backlash because this mail might be seen as not
> nice, getting personal. Well, what is not nice and not OK from my point
> of view is seeing a list that should serve some purpose flooded with
> lots of talk that is not in any way actionable or on a path to get
> there ... with one sender of such mails sticking out of the mass by
> frequency and quantity.


My message was extremely vague in nature, i now realize! I didn't succeed in
illustrating with words, what appears chrystal clear to me in my mind
already..
If anybody cares yet to still show interest in this thread:
the topic is the deprecation of the "window" metaphor, meaning the metaphor
is a misleading term inherited from a concept that imo is claiming way too
much importance in all of our design discussions at the moment.

We keep talking about windows and how to stack, sort, tile, minimize and
maximize them, but somehow it seems that we are forgetting about what really
counts:
Content, interaction, function, application, image and sound, last but not
least: people.

My hope was by discussing how one could imagine this ancient metaphor being
less important, we would quickly discover much more important things to
"fix" in the concepts we are discussing all over the community a.t.m.

please feel free to tell me where else i'm out of line or too vague, i don't
want to spam this list, which i cherish so much.