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[Mitja Pagon <mitja.pagon@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Using the example of volume control mentioned below, am I the only one who thinks windicators make little sense and are in fact bad UX. Follow my example. 
What is the added benefit of having the per-application volume control as "windicator". Music players already have per application volume controls in their UIs and space gained by moving them into the window title is minimal. Are there any other benefits am missing? 

On the other hand you are adding visual clutter to the title bar, introducing confusing behavior, as the same indicator is sometimes applications specific, other times it system wide, not to mention you are giving yourself additional technical problems to solve and thus requiring more resources. All of this are negative implications of this idea. 

If you apply simple math to this you can conclude that he negatives of this idea outweigh the positives. 

There are some other use cases mentioned, but most of the same logic applies and as for using windicators for notifying users there is already notify-osd. 

Cheers, 

Mitja 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Shuttleworth" <mark@xxxxxxxxxx> 
To: "Carl Simpson" <cwd.simpson@xxxxxxxxx> 
Cc: hello@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 4:57:59 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Windicators 


I think we should provide a standard "collapsing" approach for things which could be window indicators and which are commonly system indicators too, like volume. When maximised, the window indicator is embedded in the system indicator (so there's only one volume indicator, and in there you find what you probably expect to find). 

Needs cogent thinking, but I think it's doable. 

Mark 

On 04/01/11 20:06, Carl Simpson wrote: 

To clarify, I mean people tend to want that somewhere in the front-and-centre interface; I'm aware that it's there in gnome-volume-control. 


2011/1/4 Carl Simpson < cwd.simpson@xxxxxxxxx > 



2011/1/4 Mark Shuttleworth < mark@xxxxxxxxxx > 





When maximised, they go into the panel, on the right, left of any 
app-indicators. 


Can we can assume from this that per-application functions, such as volume control and network status, wont be tenable uses of the windicator idea, since this would result in duplicates (e.g., two volume controls) or confusingly similar items in the panel when applications are maximised? 

If that is the case, then as a side note: I get the sense that per-application volume control is something that people generally think that they want- is there any plan for that sort of thing? 



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