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[Carl Simpson <cwd.simpson@xxxxxxxxx>]

As far as I am aware, from memory, this was not done so that the
application's menus always start in the same place, thereby being
consistent, thereby making it quicker to find stuff.

With the ironic outcome that where with the Mac style we had to check the
location of a given item before went off for the menu, with the “improved”
Unity style, we have no idea where the menu is at all or what items are in
it in the first place.

2011/4/19 Christopher Kahn <christopher.kahn@xxxxxxxxx>

> +1 on this... the menu should never be hidden. It's very difficult and
> unintuitive to hide it. The window title should just push it over... even
> the "geniuses" designing OS X do it like that.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Alexander Lancey <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>>  Why does the global menu hide at all? Hiding it doesn't save a lot of
>> space, and it an can quite annoying.
>>
>> -New users may have issues finding it
>> -A user may forgot an action like Edit -> Copy if the Edit menu isn't a
>> visual reminder
>> -I frequently make an L-shape as I hit the top of the screen, *then* move
>> the mouse to the menu i was looking for
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 13:18 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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>> Kevin Liao wrote on 12/04/11 14:48:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> > I've been wondering, the Global Menu debate has been very furious for a
>> > while now. Proponents argue that Fitts Law is efficient. However,
>> > Unity's implementation of the Global Menu is that it becomes a menu
>> > when it is hovered over. Doesn't this mean that Fitts Law is rendered
>> > invalid because the user is in a sense "blind" until the mouse hovers
>> > over the menu?
>> >...
>>
>> It does. In the videos I watched of Charline Poirier's user test two
>> weeks ago, of the eight out of ten people who could find the hidden
>> menus at all, seven of them discovered the menus while mousing over the
>> close/minimize/unmaximize buttons in a maximized window.
>>
>> They then concluded that the way to access menus was to hover over the
>> close/minimize/unmaximize buttons, and then move sideways. This was very
>> slow, and didn't work at all in unmaximized windows.
>>
>> People were much faster at using LibreOffice's menus, which are not yet
>> integrated into the global menu bar by default.
>>
>> - --
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