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Message #06457
Re: Regressions in Unity for 11.10?
As I mentioned before in another post, this is exactly the reason I joined
this mailing list. Very bad changes for Oneric, and they simply don't help
to keep a recognizable interface for new users, the same reason of why the
wallpaper is almost the same for Ubuntu 10.10, 11.04 and 11.10.
And for the problem of the Ubuntu button, I repeat the solution proposed
originally by user Sashin of Launchpad:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/unity-shell/+spec/better-ubuntu-button-bfb
For which I made a better mockup here:
http://sites.google.com/site/gandreoliva/hybridbutton
And this solves the original usability problem of people clicking "home
folder" button instead of Ubuntu button by mistake.
I also think that the application menus have to be more "discovereable", or
at least there has to be a configuration option for always showing the
menus. There are lots of touch devices using Ubuntu shown in YouTube. And I
think Unity has to be the most "touch friendly" possible.
2011/8/31 anthropornis <anthropornis@xxxxxxxxx>
> I'm mostly in agreement with you.
>
> I'd be curious as to hear your feedback on my proposed redesign of the top
> panel (with the Ubuntu button left in its Natty position), which would
> accommodate most everything everyone wants while keeping it all discoverable
> simultaneously (and could have additional keyboard shortcuts applied to it):
> https://lists.launchpad.net/**ayatana/msg06419.html<https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg06419.html>
> (alas, no mockups, I am graphically-challenged)
>
>
>
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> On 08/31/2011 05:58 AM, Tommy Bongaerts wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Most of the current big changes in the Unity shell are serious
>> regressions in my opinion. I think Unity as shipped with 11.04 is much
>> better. Here are the reasons why:
>>
>> It has the 'Ubuntu botton' integrated in the top panel. I thought that
>> this was a very good idea, because it is in a way the 'window' into the
>> system. With the 'Ubuntu button' inside the launcher, there no longer
>> is a clear distinction. I also think it looks more pleasing to the
>> eye, as it makes the launcher look more or less 'locked' into the top
>> panel.
>>
>> The dash now has close/minimize/maximize widgets, just like regular
>> windows. Very bad idea. It is /not/ a regular window, and should not
>> be treated as such. Using the 'Ubuntu button' (or the 'super' key) to
>> open/close the Dash made perfect sense
>>
>> When an application is maximized, the close/minimize/maximize widgets
>> are hidden by default. To make them appear, the user has to hoover
>> over the top panel. This means aiming twice: once to make the widgets
>> appear, and then again to click on the desired widget. Seems very
>> counterproductive to me.
>>
>> The same is valid for the global menus by the way, but I never found
>> this to be problematic myself. Still, it would be a good idea to at
>> least provide a user setting to keep the global menus displayed by
>> default.
>>
>> The application name still gets clipped (with a 'fade out') when the
>> global menu is displayed. I think that this looks extremely bad. I'd
>> keep the application name fully displayed at all times, and have the
>> menu next to that. Okay, this would mean that the position of the menu
>> is no longer absolute, but that's not a big deal I think.
>>
>> In relation to the previous item, when the application name stays
>> displayed at all times, it could be turned into an indicator-like
>> button, sporting all kinds of 'services' for the current application.
>> These services could include eg. 'kill application', 'take snapshot',
>> 'move to workspace', 'hide', 'tile left/right'...
>>
>> It would also be nice if the user had to option not to use 'global'
>> menus if they want to.
>>
>> Anyway, I've created a couple of mock-ups to make clear how the panel
>> ideally would look like in my opinion:
>>
>> http://www.drumscum.be/var/**unity_menu_maximized.png<http://www.drumscum.be/var/unity_menu_maximized.png>
>> http://www.drumscum.be/var/**unity_menu_windowed.png<http://www.drumscum.be/var/unity_menu_windowed.png>
>> http://www.drumscum.be/var/**unity_window-menu.png<http://www.drumscum.be/var/unity_window-menu.png>
>>
>> Please let me know what you think.
>>
>>
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