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Message #06663
Re: super+n+up/down/home to rearrange launcher icons.
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To:
Ayatana Discussion <ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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From:
Jo-Erlend Schinstad <joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date:
Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:46:11 +0200
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Den 28. sep. 2011 11:24, skrev Stefanos A.:
I just tried and the Launcher currently activates on key press, not
release. Super+2 activates without releasing the key.
Yes, and that would have to be changed.
Change the key press to key release would indeed introduce an
unacceptable delay. I have already filed bugs on Unity for things that
are activated on release rather than press, like the BFB (now Dash
button - it's not movable so there's absolutely no reason to activate
on release). These things make Unity feel slow, even though it isn't.
Gratuitously introduce more delays is not the way to go.
Unacceptable delay? I estimate a delay of about 20ms. Perhaps you've
misunderstood something?
Especially since you can add a different shortcut for reordering, such
as Shift+Super, and keep *both* actions on key press. In fact, that's
how the workspace switcher works: Control+Alt is activated on key
down, as is Shift+Control+Alt. Simple, symmetrical and no additional
delays.
It would never make sense to cancel those events. That's something
that's been bugging me about Gnome for many years, that if you clicked
the wrong menu entry, then it was not possible to cancel it. You would
have to run that application, close it, open the menu and then start the
right application. If the action was initiated on release, then you
could've simply pressed esc to cancel. It's seriously annoying to be
unable to cancel launching LibreOffice because I hit 5 instead of 4. I
should be able to hit esc before I release and prevent it.
(Interesting anecdote: many reviewers commented that Office 2007 was
much faster than Office 2003 because its right-click menu activates on
mouse down and not mouse up. This was actually made a big deal back
then! I'm bringing this up to highlight that this is not a non-issue -
there is measurable speed difference that affects user satisfaction).
I am unable to verify that claim, but I've been told that many people
gets kidnapped by aliens too. Those kinds of unsubstantiated claims
carry very little weight with me. But you're talking about consistency?
When you use the mouse, then the entries are not activated by press, but
by release, and only if you don't press and hold for long periods of
time, like more than one second. When you use the keyboard, it is
opposite. Why is that a good idea?
In any event, I realized that it would be better to hold shift in alt+f1
to move entries up and down.
Jo-Erlend Schinstad
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