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[Matt Richardson <m.richardson.1990@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Me too

On 08/08/12 01:49, Ryan Gauger wrote:
>
>
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 7:34 PM, Matt Richardson
> <m.richardson.1990@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:m.richardson.1990@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>> I do like the idea of moving the window controls as you suggest, but
>> the suggestion here was to move the indicators so that they fall
>> outside of the window rectangle.
>> I also agree that if users had a reasonable idea about system
>> semantics then designing accordingly would mean design would match
>> user expectation.
>> My experience is that most users don't think about the system
>> semantics. As an example, many people think of the office suite as a
>> reason to choose an operating system, despite the fact that the
>> office suite is not technically part of the operating system.
>>
>> Take that perspective on whether indicators should be moved outside
>> the window rectangle and it's my opinion that most users would be
>> more bothered by increasing the mouse travel distance than by
>> semantically correct placement.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> p.s. My use of the word 'surely' was simply a figure of speech. In
>> future I will try to make it clear that I am expressing only my own
>> opinion.
>>
>> On 08/08/12 00:43, Benjamin Bach wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Aug 2, 2012, at 2:45 AM, Matt Richardson
>>>     <m.richardson.1990@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>     <mailto:m.richardson.1990@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     > I often hear suggestions like this; about where something
>>>     should be
>>>     > placed or how it should behave because it belongs to this or that
>>>     > technical part of the system, but surely something should be
>>>     placed
>>>     > where it is most logical to place it in terms of user
>>>     interaction, not
>>>     > system semantics.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not "surely". Just "maybe". There are not definitive answers.
>>>
>>> System semantics are important as well, because having a correct
>>> understanding will guide the user's intuition.... blah blah blah.
>>>
>>> Anyways, here's an example of how to alter the top bar such that the
>>> title of a window + its buttons will be correctly attached to the
>>> so-called rectangle of the window, adhearing to those spacial
>>> ("gestalt") laws of UI design -- without taking up more space:
>>>
>>> http://ge.tt/9qRlGgL/v/0?c
>>>
>>> - Ben
>>>
>>>
>>
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> I like how indicators are now.
>
> ---Ryan