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[Brandon Watkins <bwat47@xxxxxxxxx>]

Marlin is still rough around the edges, but it has a very beautiful and
usable interface, and some good features. IMO it should be considered for
inclusion in future ubuntu releases (I doubt it would be ready enough for
12.10). IMO we should probably stick to a patched nautilus for now, and
canonical should work with the marlin developer to polish marlin for a
future ubuntu version.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Georgi Karavasilev <motorslav@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>  Nautilus 3.4 is the safest bet out there (feature and stability wise),
>> however it has that horrid chopped down right sided toolbar and the back
>> and forward on the right and neither of those two are even remotely good
>> looking.
>>
>> *It would be easy enough to tweak it, but staying on an old unmaintained
>> version of nautilus is not a solution going forward.*
>>
>
> Exactly what I think about staying on 3.4.
>
>  Nautilus 3.6 is pretty, however it is terrible chopped down feature wise
>> and doesn't fit Ubuntu and Unity at all (super-menu and no menubar, hence
>> no appmenu => no HUD, light toolbar (and all other apps have dark ones).
>>
>> *We could probably hack around and push the popup menu content to the
>> HUD if that's the only issue, the problem is that it's not the only change
>> so far (the drop of the menu means we have no "desktop menu" on empty
>> desktops at the moment, they dropped compact view, treeview sidepanel, the
>> lack of menubar looks weird in unity, etc)*
>>
>
> Again, bang on the money. Whilst nautilus 3.6 works for Gnome it just
> can't quite cut it for Unity.
>
> Nemo is the new kid on the block and that's pretty much all that's known
>> about it.
>>
>> *it's basically a fork of nautilus 3.4 no?*
>>
>
> Yes, Nemo is Nautilus 3.4 fork from the Mint guys. However Mint and Ubuntu
> have very different design ideas and in mind, hence I think that Nemo is
> not the solution here.
>
>  Marlin is the prettiest file manager there is out there, however it does
>> lack stability (and maybe a features - MAYBE) and *needs **a lot*
>>  manpower.
>>
>>
>> *The elementary guys worked on top of marlin for this own file manager
>> as well:
>> https://launchpad.net/pantheon-files*
>>
>
> Yeah, there is also Pantheon-Files, but knowing the elementary guys Marlin
> will be much more open for contributions and ubuntui-zing. Elementary and
> Ubuntu have two different HIGs and there will be design issues poping out
> with Pantheon files. This one is a prime example:
> Unity needs menubar => appmenu => HUD. Elementary apps depend on cog-menu
> button on the right, hence they are likely to not allow pantheon-files to
> have a menubar, even if it is optional.
> Marlin dev on the other hand (am-monkeyd) should be more open to Ubuntu
> contributions to Marlin, through I can't guarantee that 100%.
>
> The reason why I started this talk is because there file manager issue is
> becoming more and more problematic as the time goes by and a decision must
> be taken sooner or later :) ... preferably sooner :P
>
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