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[Seif Lotfy <646724@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

There is a difference between Tracker and Zeitgeist:
Tracker indexes stuff in the XDG directories only per default which means it
will only index stuff in Music, Documents, etc...
It will not cover a Directory "Foo" or anything in it. (it makes optimal for
people with lots of files in the default directories)
Zeitgeist indexes stuff you touch. Which means it does not index stuff you
never interacted with (it makes it optimal for fresh installs). Plus
Zeitgeist allows you to sort through receny, frequency, relevancy and
resemblance to the search string.

I am creating a zeitgeist extension that if Tracker is installed it will ask
Tracker for results and attach them to the zeitgeist results and return them
to the client. We have a working prototype. I am not happy with the solution
but its fast enough...
Stay tuned.

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Christoph Buchner <
646724@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> wrt to tracker: I actually didn't want to push this discussion towards
> tracker/beagle integration itself, I just wanted to point out that
> obviously, indexing the relevant files _and their contents_ is already
> possible and reasonable performance-wise. Consequently, I don't think it
> should be too much of a performance hog to maintain a proper index
> (without file's contents, too boot) for search  in ZG; that's what the
> tracker/beagle people have been doing for years, after all.
>
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> place-files.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/646724
>
> Title:
>  not all files show up in files-place
>
> Status in Unity:
>  Triaged
> Status in Unity Files Place:
>  Triaged
> Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
>  Fix Released
> Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
>  Invalid
> Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
>  Triaged
> Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
>  Fix Released
>
> Bug description:
>  The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
>  files/documents etc. is really great.
>
>  However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
>  zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
>
>  E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
>  within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
>  because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
>
>  I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
>
>  For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
>  create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
>  applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
>  Unity files-place interface.
>
>  To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
>  filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
>  zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
>  applications.
>

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/646724

Title:
  not all files show up in files-place

Status in Unity:
  Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
  Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
  Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
  Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
  files/documents etc. is really great.

  However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
  zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.

  E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
  within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
  because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.

  I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.

  For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
  create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
  applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
  Unity files-place interface.

  To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
  filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
  zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
  applications.