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[Seif Lotfy <646724@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

BTW just for you info there is no perfect solution right now. Even Tracker
that "crawls your desktop" doesn't find anything that is NOT in the
following folders:
- Desktop
- Documents
- Downloads
- Music
- Public
- Pictures Templates
- Videos

While this sounds good alot of files do not reside there. So currently there
is no perfect solution. I am personally working on a hybrid search extension
that allows you to search Tracker + Zeitgeist results. Problem here is the
speed of the search in Tracker do a technical decision as well as the merge
of search results.

I think removing a functionality because its not working properly is a bad
idea. Because it works for the default and normal users. Anyone who uses the
default Ubuntu apps doesnt have problems finding his stuff since "once you
touch the file" with a standard Ubuntu app it will be covered by Zeitgeist.

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:17 AM, vanadium
<646724@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> The issue is that the current implementation of "files and folders" is
> unacceptable. It is unacceptable that it does not show up the files the
> user knows are out there. This effectively breaks the function from the
> perspective of the user. Thus, this issue should be corrected with the
> highest priority, or the function should be removed if it cannot be
> technically implemented in a satisfactory way.
>
> Additional problem: inconsistency. "Applications" finds all applications
> on the computer, and even Applications *not* on the computer. "Files and
> Folders" on the other hand, does not even find several the user's own
> files that are on the local computer.
>
> Currently, this functions as an adequate "Recent documents" tool. Rename
> it to "Recent documents" and the current issue is solved. Then, a "Files
> and folders" lens could be a feature request for unity.
>
> Extending ZG with a new range of data providers does not seem like a
> priority right know, except if aims to make sure that at least, a user
> can retrieve his files. Let the rest follow once this fundamental flaw
> is solved.
>
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> place-files.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/646724
>
> Title:
>  not all files show up in files-place
>
> Status in Unity:
>  Triaged
> Status in Unity Files Place:
>  Triaged
> Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
>  Fix Released
> Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
>  Invalid
> Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
>  Triaged
> Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
>  Fix Released
>
> Bug description:
>  The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
>  files/documents etc. is really great.
>
>  However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
>  zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
>
>  E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
>  within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
>  because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
>
>  I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
>
>  For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
>  create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
>  applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
>  Unity files-place interface.
>
>  To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
>  filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
>  zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
>  applications.
>

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/646724

Title:
  not all files show up in files-place

Status in Unity:
  Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
  Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
  Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
  Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
  files/documents etc. is really great.

  However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
  zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.

  E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
  within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
  because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.

  I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.

  For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
  create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
  applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
  Unity files-place interface.

  To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
  filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
  zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
  applications.