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Re: [Ayatana] Me & Messaging Indicator Menu



On 01/01/11 03:06, frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >Status Text
> >Status text has 2 applications we are trying to address, a problem not
> >solved by the spec as up to now.
> >1) IM status text aka "motto" aka "custom status"
> >2) Social Stream status message aka "tweet" aka "blog" aka "status
>update"
>

With regards to the IM status, I would further divide "motto" and
"custom status" into two separate categories.

1) A *motto* tends to be a quote or phrase used for purposes of
self-expression, and as such its infrequently changed.

2) A *custom status* to be a more specific status (e.g. sleeping, gone
shopping, etc...) not covered by the standard online, away and busy
status messages.

I realise of course that in most, if not all instances these two
categories are indistinct in that they use the same mechanism/field.
However I would suggest that a *motto* field be placed in the *about me*
dialogue, and an option to add *custom statuses* such that they would
appear alongside the standard statuses in the *me menu*. The *motto*
could then be treated as the nominal *IM status*, only being overridden
whilst a *custom status* is enacted, and being restored once the *custom
status* has been revoked. That way the text field (in the *me menu*) can
be used exclusively for *social media statuses* (as it is now, I
believe) which tend to be updated a lot more often (when used).

As an aside; the ideal solution to *custom statuses* would be if to
defined then *as statuses* within the client/protocol itself. That would
however require protocol updates to WLM/Yahoo/GTalk which are not likely
forthcoming. :(

Kind Regards,

Lee Hyde.


On 01/01/11 01:45, frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Hey Dani, Conscious ;)
> 
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 19:56, Conscious User <conscioususer@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:conscioususer@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Good job getting rid of the clutter, Daniel, but I was a little
>     troubled with the visual inconsistency, so I'm attaching here the
>     mockup of a suggestion to turn both status changing and publishing
>     into submenus. This allows us to be more confortable to add more
>     complexity to the publishing, such as the account selection
>     originally proposed in
> 
>     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeMenu#Use%20cases
> 
> 
>     Le vendredi 31 décembre 2010 à 15:24 +0100, dani a écrit :
>     > i made some mockups that i think are a good and simple solution for
>     > this problem, i hope you like:
>     >
>     > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Maverick/redesign_memenu%
>     > 26mesagemenu
>     >
>     > pd: the last mockup i include a control panel option, this pice is
>     > redesigned on gnome 3 and i think is a good option to global all user
>     > preference options.
>     >
>     > http://live.gnome.org/Design/SystemSettings
> 
> 
> I think it's really good to have only one icon for messaging and
> Presence up in the panel, much tidier, less confusing.
> Which one will it be now?
> The envelope doesn't really indicate presence, wouldn't perhaps the
> speech bubble make sense up there as an indicator icon for the merged menu?
> I like the mockups very much, they take what's there and just make it
> work as one, efficient and neat!
> 
> 
> 
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