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HI :)
Well, the post that I created here originally was thought as a supplement to this bug (in order to break Microsoft's major market share, certification has to be improved). And as Mark is the reporter of the bug, I thought there might be chance that he'd read it. 

The rest is just a discussion emerged from my original post, in which I
let flow in some things that I am unhappy with and which could be
improved (sorry for offending anyone, if I did)

While there may be other ways to contact the persons responsible for certification, I do not know what is wrong of posting the feedback as a question on Launchpad to which the Canonical Hardware Certification Team is subscribed to (see question #216889).
I did not install Windows first, I also tried other distributions, including Fedora 18 Beta, which ships with a quite recent kernel.
I do not see the point of trying Linux Mint (as it ships with the same Kernel as Ubuntu) or a different version of Ubuntu (as I already tried two).

For Windows, it worked pretty straight forward: It detected everything,
except the touchpad and the harddrive acceleration sensor. Installed
both drivers, and I was ready to go. Still better than having to compile
a custom touchpad driver that adds support for my Alps touchpad.

Just to sum it up, I do not want to harp on Ubuntu's hardware support -
of course it is harder to support hardware if vendors do not provide
drivers or anything. If I install Ubuntu on some machine, it is
acceptable for me that I may have to tweak something, considering it is
free and open.

BUT: If I buy a Ubuntu certified machine (I suppose that Dell pays some
money to Canonical for certification, rights to use the Ubuntu brand,
Hardware enablement...), shipping with Ubuntu, I expect everything to
work (as it is with Windows normally) and that the changes required to
make the hardware work are made flow back upstream, so that it works
with other distributions, too.

Otherwise, I do not think that Ubuntu can not be seen as a serious
competitor to Windows.

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Title:
  Microsoft has a majority market share

Status in Club Distro:
  Confirmed
Status in Computer Science Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite:
  New
Status in dylan.NET.Reflection:
  Invalid
Status in dylan.NET:
  Invalid
Status in EasyPeasy Overview:
  Invalid
Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians:
  Invalid
Status in JAK LINUX:
  Invalid
Status in LibreOffice:
  In Progress
Status in The Linux Kernel:
  New
Status in The Linux Mint Distribution:
  In Progress
Status in The Linux OS Project:
  In Progress
Status in The Metacity Window Manager:
  In Progress
Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
  In Progress
Status in Tabuntu:
  Invalid
Status in A simple player to online TV streaming:
  Invalid
Status in Tv-Player:
  Invalid
Status in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team Meta Project:
  In Progress
Status in Ubuntu:
  In Progress
Status in Arch Linux:
  Confirmed
Status in Baltix GNU/Linux:
  Invalid
Status in “linux” package in Debian:
  In Progress
Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS:
  Confirmed
Status in openSUSE:
  In Progress
Status in Tilix Linux:
  New

Bug description:
  Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC
  marketplace. This is a bug which Ubuntu and other projects are meant
  to fix. As the philosophy of the Ubuntu Project states, "Our work is
  driven by a belief that software should be free and accessible to
  all."

  "Ubuntu software is free. Always was, always will be. Free software gives everyone the freedom to use it however they want and share with whoever they like. This freedom has huge benefits. At one end of the spectrum it enables the Ubuntu community to grow and share its collective experience and expertise to continually improve all things Ubuntu. At the other, we are able to give access to essential software for those who couldn’t otherwise afford it – an advantage that’s keenly felt by individuals and organisations all over the world."
       * http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy

  Non-free software leaves users at the mercy of the software owner and
  concentrates control over the technology which powers our society into
  the hands of a few. Additionally, proprietary software stifles
  innovation, maintains artificial scarcities, and enables malicious
  anti-features such as DRM, surveillance, and other monopolistic
  practices.

  This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

  Steps to repeat:

      1. Visit a local PC store.
      2. Attempt to buy a machine without any proprietary software.

  What happens:

  Almost always, a majority of PCs for sale have Microsoft Windows pre-
  installed. In the rare cases that they come with a GNU/Linux operating
  system or no operating system at all, the drivers and BIOS may be
  proprietary.

  What should happen:

  A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software.

       * http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
       * http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
       * http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd

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