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[Bug 857326] Re: Selecting another preferred language in Lubuntu is confusing

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From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <857326@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 01:29:09 -0000
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** Also affects: lxde
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

** Summary changed:

- Selecting another preferred language in Lubuntu is confusing
+ Display language not set properly in Lubuntu

** Description changed:

- The menu for selecting another preferred language seems to be confusing
- or is buggy.
+ Addition derived from the conclusions of the discussion below
+ -------------------------------------------------------------
+ In Ubuntu, the environment variables LANGUAGE and LC_MESSAGES are used to denote the display language, while LANG holds a locale name that determines regional formats such as date/time format, currency, etc. The Ubuntu package language-selector is used by Lubuntu for setting language preferences.
+
+ language-selector stores the per-user language settings in ~/.profile,
+ and assumes that the login manager sources ~/.profile at login. However,
+ the conclusion from the discussion below is that Lubuntu/lxdm ignores
+ ~/.profile, which is a bug that needs to be fixed.
+
+ System-wide language settings are stored in /etc/default/locale. In
+ Lubuntu those settings are used at login for setting the language
+ related environment variables, and since ~/.profile is ignored, it's
+ currently /etc/default/locale that determines the display language for
+ all users on the system.
+
+ As regards the display language on the login screen, neither LANGUAGE
+ nor LC_MESSAGES in /etc/default/locale seems to be recognized. It means
+ that LANG controls the display language, which results in the wrong
+ language if LANGUAGE/LC_MESSAGES differ from LANG. This is also a bug
+ that should be fixed.
+
+ Original description
+ --------------------
+ The menu for selecting another preferred language seems to be confusing or is buggy.

1. When I set English as the preferred language after I installed Lubuntu with preferred language = dutch,
the dutch gets grayed out in the menu?? (Although it is still installed). After logging off, the preferred
laguage wansn't changed. One has to reboot the system before it's getting changed

2. The menu shows uninstalled languages (such as chinese? and deutsch??)

3. When Dutch is selected back as the preferred language, then both Dutch and English are displayed in black (which
is ok)

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10
Package: lxdm 0.4.1-0ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-11.18-generic 3.0.4
Uname: Linux 3.0.0-11-generic i686
ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu1
Architecture: i386
Date: Fri Sep 23 14:11:39 2011
InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 11.10 "Oneiric Ocelot" - Beta i386 (20110830.2)
ProcEnviron:
- LANGUAGE=nl:en
- LANG=nl_BE.UTF-8
- SHELL=/bin/bash
+ LANGUAGE=nl:en
+ LANG=nl_BE.UTF-8
+ SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: lxdm
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
mtime.conffile..etc.lxdm.lxdm.conf: 2011-09-02T16:01:26.397322

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Title:
Display language not set properly in Lubuntu

Status in LXDE - Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment:
New
Status in “lxdm” package in Ubuntu:
Confirmed

Bug description:
Addition derived from the conclusions of the discussion below
-------------------------------------------------------------
In Ubuntu, the environment variables LANGUAGE and LC_MESSAGES are used to denote the display language, while LANG holds a locale name that determines regional formats such as date/time format, currency, etc. The Ubuntu package language-selector is used by Lubuntu for setting language preferences.

language-selector stores the per-user language settings in ~/.profile,
and assumes that the login manager sources ~/.profile at login.
However, the conclusion from the discussion below is that Lubuntu/lxdm
ignores ~/.profile, which is a bug that needs to be fixed.

System-wide language settings are stored in /etc/default/locale. In
Lubuntu those settings are used at login for setting the language
related environment variables, and since ~/.profile is ignored, it's
currently /etc/default/locale that determines the display language for
all users on the system.

As regards the display language on the login screen, neither LANGUAGE
nor LC_MESSAGES in /etc/default/locale seems to be recognized. It
means that LANG controls the display language, which results in the
wrong language if LANGUAGE/LC_MESSAGES differ from LANG. This is also
a bug that should be fixed.

Original description
--------------------
The menu for selecting another preferred language seems to be confusing or is buggy.

2. The menu shows uninstalled languages (such as chinese? and
deutsch??)

3. When Dutch is selected back as the preferred language, then both Dutch and English are displayed in black (which
is ok)

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10
Package: lxdm 0.4.1-0ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-11.18-generic 3.0.4
Uname: Linux 3.0.0-11-generic i686
ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu1
Architecture: i386
Date: Fri Sep 23 14:11:39 2011
InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 11.10 "Oneiric Ocelot" - Beta i386 (20110830.2)
ProcEnviron:
LANGUAGE=nl:en
LANG=nl_BE.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: lxdm
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
mtime.conffile..etc.lxdm.lxdm.conf: 2011-09-02T16:01:26.397322

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