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[Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>]

Will have to investigate and get back to you

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On Jun 14, 2013 6:06 PM, "Bob Jolliffe" <bobjolliffe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> how do they determine which day is day 1 of week 1?
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> On 14 June 2013 17:52, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> For my purposes, that's really all I know, and for my requirements it
>> will be exactly parallel to countries that require Monday instead of Sunday.
>>
>> But certainly the Nepali, Ethiopian and several others have more complex
>> requirements, which I think partly must be treated as separate cases.
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>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
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>>> Explain the Cambodian calendar a bit more.  I am sure there is more to
>>> it than when the weeks start.  Or is that it?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14 June 2013 17:35, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Jason and Bob.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, this seems to be a pressing requirement in several
>>>> countries
>>>>
>>>> I think one simplification that could be justified would be to have
>>>> only one week type in one DHIS2 instance. Thus, the exact meaning of
>>>> 2012W25 is defined by looking at the FIRSTDAYOFWEEK setting in the
>>>> particular db (which probably should be displayed on the About DHIS 2 page.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, that does not solve interoperability issues (but rather it
>>>> deteriorate through obfuscation), but I think it is reasonable to think
>>>> that everyone in Cambodia uses weeks starting on Wednesdays.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Weeks are as we all know something of a headache.  What we have
>>>>> defined currently in DHIS2, as Jason points out, is the ISO standard week,
>>>>> which even itself is something of a headache.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that to incorporate all the variety which is called for
>>>>> (Wednesday week starts is the most exotic I've seen to date!  But there are
>>>>> also Islamic calendar issues, Ethiopian/Amharic calendar, Monday vs Sunday
>>>>> starts etc)  we might need to zoom right out to define a generic repeating
>>>>> period with rules around starting and stopping.  But it could get quite
>>>>> complicated.  Two immediate issues which come to mind
>>>>> (i) we need a string representation of periods.  So 2010W23 has a
>>>>> particular meaning in terms of the ISO week number.  How to differentiate
>>>>> this from a week which starts on a Wednesday (and which day of the year
>>>>> would be day 1 of week 1?);
>>>>> (ii) how to aggregate along the time axis ie, weeks->months->years
>>>>>
>>>>> Its something which needs to be done, but I am not at all clear what
>>>>> the correct design approach would be.  Would be interested to hear people's
>>>>> thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 June 2013 17:12, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Devs: Is this something which could be targeted for 2.13?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Knut
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Jason Pickering <
>>>>>> jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently not. This has come up before, but for now, ISO weeks are
>>>>>>> what has been implemented.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_date
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Paulo Grácio <
>>>>>>> pgracio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, ****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there a way to define week start day for Weekly periods?****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paulo Grácio****
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Knut Staring
>>>>>> Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo
>>>>>> +4791880522
>>>>>> http://dhis2.org
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>>>> Knut Staring
>>>> Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo
>>>> +4791880522
>>>> http://dhis2.org
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>> --
>> Knut Staring
>> Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo
>> +4791880522
>> http://dhis2.org
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