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Re: How can I relate information from different Data Set and different programs?.

 

Yes, I  have reviewed  this situation, but we have two data sets that these use a same Data Element, organization unit and report date. 
I will have to solve this.

thanks,

Mg . Helder Yesid Castrillon.
Secretaría departamental de salud del Cauca.



Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:24:48 +0200
Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] How can I relate information from different Data Set and different programs?.
From: martavila@xxxxxxxxx
To: helder_947@xxxxxxxxxxx
CC: tran.hispvietnam@xxxxxxxxx; dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hi Helder, all,
this really depends in the use of those DE existing in two DataSets. If there is really the same information, but it can be collected in different ways... I think it should not be duplicated... since avoiding duplication is the main point of an integrated system. 

You have to take care on how users can fill this field in... and make sure you don´t give them confusing forms (specially for the same org. unit)  So, in my opinion, it really depends on which info are you collecting and why is it in two forms... 




On 16 September 2013 17:15, helder yesid castrillon cobo <helder_947@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:




Ok,

I will have that to modify all my Data Set where I have used the same Data Elements  😭 .

 Thanks.

Mg . Helder Yesid Castrillon.

Secretaría departamental de salud del Cauca.


Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] How can I relate information from different Data Set and different programs?.
From: tran.hispvietnam@xxxxxxxxx

Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:48:48 +0300
To: helder_947@xxxxxxxxxxx

Hi Helder,
1. For the case one data element belongs to 2 data sets.

If these two data sets are assigned for org units to enter data, and period types of them are similar, such as monthly, then if a user accesses this orgunit, select one of them to enter data for Jan 2013. After that, another user accesses the same orgunit, select another data set which has that dataelement to enter data for Jan 2013. The last user will see the old data which other users entered and change this value.

For the case these data sets have different period types, then system will aggregate data wrong for reports include this data element.
So we should put only one data element into one date set for entering data.

2. For the aggregate query builder formulas.
The system hasn't supported yet formulas to get the number of persons who enrolled into many programs.

Best regard,

On 12-09-2013, at 02:35, helder yesid castrillon cobo <helder_947@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:




thanks for your answers.

I will explain with two examples:

1- the relation between information from two different form(Data Set).

I created a DataElement named 'proyeccion de población', but it is used in two different DataSet. Then I need to create a indicator with this DataElement, but, How do I differentiate the DataSet that it have the information?.


2. the relation between two different programs.

I need to create a query that it filter the number patient registered in a programs(Sivigila) and also this are registered in other program(Referencia de pacientes).

After I run the Analytics or the manual person aggregation and it doesn't show nothing.

regards,



Mg . Helder Yesid Castrillon.
Secretaría departamental de salud del Cauca.



From: tran.hispvietnam@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:33:50 +0700
Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] How can I relate information from different Data Set and different programs?.

To: vensanze@xxxxxxxx
CC: larshelge@xxxxxxxxx; helder_947@xxxxxxxxxxx; dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Hi Helder,
You can define a custom registration form in Maintenance > Persons and Program > Person Registration Form.


Best regards,
------------------------------------------------
Châu Thu Trân                                
HISP Viet Nam
Email: tran.hispvietnam@xxxxxxxxx





On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM, nsanzumuhire venuste <vensanze@xxxxxxxx> wrote:



Dear all,


we are  creating attributes in the  individual records module,but we don't  want to have those ones  witch comes buy default in the individual records.any one can advise how to remove those Fixed attributes in the form? like Full Name,Gender,date of birth,mobile phone number,health staff,is dead........ 


Tks 


VenusteRwanda Health Management Information system specialist.



    


    De : Lars Helge Øverland <larshelge@xxxxxxxxx>
 À : helder yesid
 castrillon cobo <helder_947@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
Cc : "dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 



 Envoyé le : Mardi 10 septembre 2013 17h22
 Objet : Re: [Dhis2-users] How can I relate information from different Data Set and different programs?.



   
Dear Helder,
could you please provide us with a bit more information about what does not work? I assume you refer to the "aggregate" indicators which can be found in the maintenance -> data dictionary module -> indicators, correct? 




It is definitely possible to create indicators with data elements from different data sets, there are no constraints in that regard. 
Did you remember to re-generate analytics tables after data entry, before trying to generate reports?






best regards,
Lars


 

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:54 PM, helder yesid castrillon cobo <helder_947@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:







Hi,

I have seen which in DHIS is possible create a indicator using data element that it have information from diferent Data sets, But It doesn't shed results. I seen the same when I build a Aggregation Query, but using data element from diferent programs.





Does this should works?.

this question is because I need to relate information from different Data Set and also from different programs.

thanks.

Mg. Helder Yesid Castrillon.
Secretaría departamental de salud del Cauca.




 		 	   		  

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