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Message #22862
Re: Dealing with incomplete UFL finite elements
On Wednesday April 27 2011 12:45:46 Martin Sandve Alnæs wrote:
> On 27 April 2011 21:34, Anders Logg <logg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 09:30:08PM +0200, Martin Sandve Alnæs wrote:
> > > 2011/4/27 Johan Hake <johan.hake@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > On Wednesday April 27 2011 12:03:56 Martin Sandve Aln s wrote:
> > > > On 27 April 2011 19:07, Garth N. Wells <gnw20@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > I'm starting here a new thread on how to deal with the recent
> >
> > change in
> >
> > > > > UFL that has broken a good number of DOLFIN demos. The previous
> >
> > thread
> >
> > > > > meandered and got side-tracked.
> > > > >
> > > > > The framework in we need to operate is:
> > > > >
> > > > > A. UFL will not allow forms to be modified post-construction.
> > > > >
> > > > > B. It should be relatively easy to replace ufl.Coefficients in
> > > > > a
> >
> > form
> >
> > > > > and return a new form.
> > > > >
> > > > > C. The issue with replacing ufl.Coefficients is that we lose
> >
> > DOLFIN
> >
> > > data
> > >
> > > > > (like the eval() functions) associated with the removed
> >
> > coefficients.
> >
> > > > > I'll kick off with the obvious solution:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Require that all DOLFIN Expressions are associated with a
> > > > > ufl.FiniteElement.
> > > > >
> > > > > Other solutions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Garth
> > > >
> > > > 2. At the stage when ffc calls ufl.preprocess, or even in
> > >
> > > ufl.preprocess,
> > >
> > > > let the preprocessed form contain ufl Coefficients with new
> >
> > elements in
> >
> > > > place of the dolfin.Expressions. This is similar to the
> >
> > replacements done
> >
> > > > for renumbering of Coefficients, and could either be done
> >
> > simultaneously
> >
> > > or
> > >
> > > > as an additional step. The original Form and Expression objects
> >
> > will be
> >
> > > > untouched, and the preprocessed form will be fine.
> > >
> > > +
> > >
> > > However, setting cell and degree is done during analysis and relies
> >
> > on
> >
> > > form_data. The form is also preprocessed when the form_data is
> >
> > extracted.
> >
> > > This
> > > means that for the preprocessed form to get correct signature, cell
> >
> > and
> >
> > > degrees being set, we need to break up the logic.
> > >
> > > 1) extract form_data
> > > 2) set degree and cell
> > > 3) genererate preprocessed form
> > >
> > > Lets figure out the exact algorithm if we need it. It could perhaps be
> > > integrated better with preprocess. Or it might be better to extract
> > > just
> >
> > the
> >
> > > information needed to determine degree and cell first, and pass the
> >
> > element
> >
> > > replacements to preprocess.
> >
> > That's what I suggested in an earlier mail. Preprocess already gets
> > common_cell. We could also figure out common_degree before calling
> > preprocess but that requires getting the data stored in
> > form_data.sub_elements.
>
> Extracting all sub elements from a form before preprocessing should be easy
> and efficient.
>
> I assume it's still possible to construct an Expression with a specific
> FunctionSpace?
Yes.
Johan
> It is possible to write forms that will require that even
> with the above solution.
>
> Martin
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