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[Charl Wentzel <charl.wentzel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, that's what I meant.  That's why the order of the windows are
rearranged, such that you set the search categories for the selected
package.

Charl

On Sun, 2009-07-12 at 11:33 +0930, Ryan Macnish wrote:
> We can put basic and advanced mode into the same window.Then we just
> show and hide them when the user wants.
> 
> We could have a View > Basic Mode and a View > Advanced Mode in the
> main menu. I like the idea of the contributors mode but maybe we just
> have it so that they can just add and remove packages, categories and
> whatnot, but then they just save it when they are done and email it to
> us. Rather than saving which packages are selected and which are not,
> contributors mode saves which packages are in which categories.
> 
> > Subject: Another GUI proposal
> > From: charl.wentzel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: nisshh@xxxxxxxxxxx; jay.27182818@xxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:01:46 +0200
> > 
> > Ok, given all the discussions, I'm going to make another proposal.
> I'm
> > not saying this is the way we should do it but I'm simply trying to
> > visualise how this could be done... so go ahead and tear it
> apart... :-)
> > 
> > I've attached the proposal and sent it to you directly. So Jay, if
> you
> > don't mind setting up a link again. Thanks.
> > 
> > There are 3 different screens;
> > 
> > - Export Install Mode
> > This is the configuration/layout suitable for advanced use with all
> > the bells-and-wistles turned on. Here you can delve in to as much
> > details as you want.
> > 
> > - Novice Install Mode
> > This is the same screen but with "categorisation" turned off in the
> > "Search Results" and the "Package Details" window minimised. This
> > provides less detail and should be easier for complete novices.
> > 
> > - Contribute Mode
> > Why not allow guys to contribute to the project? i.e. creating
> > categories, categorisation of pacakages, assigning search criteria
> etc.
> > Making this easy and accessible to users are critical to the success
> of
> > the project.
> > 
> > 
> > The 3 different windows are as follows:
> > 
> > * Search Criteria
> > This is the place you enter the seach criteria and also the part
> where
> > we mostly disagree. The beauty of this design is that we can test
> both
> > our approaches. 
> > 
> > I agree that everything we've spoken about, including search
> categories,
> > categories, package groups, etc ,can be search categories and used
> in
> > the search criteria window. But how many major search categories are
> > there really? 
> > 
> > Something like this maybe...
> > 
> > - Target platform
> > - Gnome
> > - KDE
> > - CLI
> > - Web
> > - etc
> > - Programming Language
> > - C++
> > - PHP
> > - Python
> > - etc
> > - Tool Category
> > - IDE
> > - Compiler
> > - GDB
> > - etc
> > 
> > The user open the branch he wants to make a selection in and tick
> the
> > items he needs. By default only a few options could be selected in
> the
> > "Tools Category" so it limits the results that will be shown in the
> > "Search Results" window.
> > 
> > * Search Results
> > This is the place where you show the results of the search. A
> special
> > feature here is to turn "categorisation" on and off. In Novice mode
> > it's off and in advanced mode it on, but there should actually be a
> > simple tick box some where on the window that allows you to turn
> this on
> > and off quickly and easily.
> > 
> > This caters for both our approaches as well. I prefer viewing a
> large
> > result set in groups, which makes it easier to understand. But if
> you
> > don't like it... turn it off.
> > 
> > Note that the result here is what I refered to as "package groups"
> and
> > not the actual packages. I don't believe a novice should be
> overwhelmed
> > by the package details initially. But if he wants to he can simply
> > "maximise" the "Package Details" window.
> > 
> > The user simply select the packages he wants.
> > 
> > There's also a "custom" package group which allows an advanced user
> to
> > amend the selection with packages of his choice. When you select
> > "custom" you can add packages in the "Package Details" window with
> the
> > "add" button.
> > 
> > * Package details
> > This is the actual packages that will be installed. The packages
> shown
> > will be determined by the category that is currently selected in the
> > "Search Results" window. Of course the user can "unselect" anything
> he
> > feels he doesn't need.
> > 
> > 
> > Load/Save/Install configurations:
> > The install button is right at the bottom, so when your'e happy...
> go!
> > 
> > As discussed, once you're done with your selection you can simply
> save
> > the results. We could also add a load button here so EVERYTHING is
> on
> > one screen!! Load or save would bring up a pop-up screen that would
> > allow you to save/load on your local machine or upload/download it
> > directly to a contribute or sharing site.
> > 
> > Contribute Mode:
> > This is essentially the same screen but a different order and
> consists
> > of the following steps:
> > 1. Create/add/select a category
> > 2. Create/add/select a package group
> > 3. Add packages. (We can add a pop-up window which would allow you
> to
> > search and select packages from the master list.
> > 4. Assign the search criteria that is valid for each package.
> > 5. Upload to www.devbuntu.org for review and approval
> > 
> > It should be that easy!!
> > 
> > What do you think?
> > 
> > Regards
> > Charl
> 
> 
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