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how would you figure this? patching during setup? install different file versions? sounds messy.

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On 15.01.2013 03:29, Michael Terry wrote:
> Hrm.  OK.  I wonder if we can't offer an option to 2to3 on the fly during setup.py if the user wants to install for python3.
> -mt
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> On 14 January 2013 12:32, <edgar.soldin@xxxxxx <mailto:edgar.soldin@xxxxxx>> wrote:
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>     as we don't really have hurry with that decision i vote for keeping an eye out how stable the next 0.6 release works out, and reconsidering a move to a python2.6+ duplicity 0.7 again thereafter.
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>     ..ede
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>     On 14.01.2013 15:44, Michael Terry wrote:
>     > My personal push for Python 3 support is because Ubuntu is pushing to be able to ship only Python 3 on the desktop image.  (Plus, Python 2.7 is the last Python 2.x.  We're at the end of that life line.)
>     >
>     > In that context, dropping support for Python 2.4 is important because it is vastly simpler to write a codebase that works in both 2.6 and 3.x than 2.4 and 3.x.
>     >
>     > -mt
>     >
>     >
>     > On 14 January 2013 09:43, Michael Terry <mike@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     My personal push for Python 3 support is because Ubuntu is pushing to be able to ship only Python 3 on the desktop image.  (Plus, Python 2.7 is the last Python 2.x.  We're at the end of that life line.)
>     >
>     >     In that context, dropping support for Python 2.4 is important because it is vastly simpler to write a codebase that works in both 2.6 and 3.x than 2.4 and 3.x.
>     >
>     >     -mt
>     >
>     >
>     >     On 14 January 2013 05:46, <edgar.soldin@xxxxxx <mailto:edgar.soldin@xxxxxx> <mailto:edgar.soldin@xxxxxx <mailto:edgar.soldin@xxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >         i'd limit it to data critical fixes. we simply have no man power to maintain both series. on the other hand, what exactly is pressing us to python3 or even python2.6..
>     >         isn't it merely keeping an eye out not to hack something backwards incompatible?
>     >         if so, we could simply announce that we do not strive to meet this criteria anymore, but still accept contributions of people or hack something if we feel we shouldn't exclude users with very old systems.
>     >
>     >         meaning: announce 0.7 with python2.6 compatibility and developing it non dogmatic against it. phasing out 0.6 alltogether.
>     >
>     >         ..ede
>     >
>     >
>     >         On 13.01.2013 18:29, Kenneth Loafman wrote:
>     >         > I think we have to continue support of the 0.6 series for a while, open to discussion.
>     >         >
>     >         > As to 0.7, good idea.  New features can be added here, fixes go to both series.
>     >         >
>     >         > ...Ken
>     >         >
>     >         > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:54 AM, <edgar.soldin@xxxxxx <mailto:edgar.soldin@xxxxxx> <mailto:edgar.soldin@xxxxxx <mailto:edgar.soldin@xxxxxx>> <mailto:edgar.soldin@xxxxxx <mailto:edgar.soldin@xxxxxx> <mailto:edgar.soldin@xxxxxx <mailto:edgar.soldin@xxxxxx>>>> wrote:
>     >         >
>     >         >     On 13.01.2013 02:25, Michael Terry wrote:
>     >         >     > Hello!  Yet another thread on the slow march to Python 3 support.
>     >         >     >
>     >         >     > The last place we left it was that Ubuntu was considering throwing some effort behind porting duplicity and maintaining such a patch themselves.  That didn't happen for manpower reasons.
>     >         >     >
>     >         >     > But I notice that Red Hat just passed (Jan 8, 2013) the end of "Production 1" for RHEL 5 [1].  Which is the first milestone on the way to RHEL 5 end of life (which won't be fully dead until 2020).
>     >         >     >
>     >         >     > I believe that is the point in which duplicity bumped from Python 2.3 to 2.4 (the end of Production 1 for RHEL 4), right?
>     >         >     >
>     >         >     > I propose that after 0.6.21 ships, the next release be versioned 0.7.0 with a minimum Python of 2.6.  And that we don't intend to make further 0.6.x releases unless we discover a data corruption issue.
>     >         >     >
>     >         >     > That way, we (I) can start working on patches that take use of 'future' imports and such with an eye towards eventually one of the 0.7.x releases working with Python 3 (while still keeping Python 2.6 compatibility).
>     >         >     >
>     >         >
>     >         >     sounds good to me. but let's wait a bit after 0.6.21 and decide considering the criticality of open bugs if we just do another 0.6 round or switch to 0.7 already.
>     >         >     but generally yes.
>     >         >
>     >         >     ..ede
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