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[Daniel Foré <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yea I'd like to echo Cassidy here. The AppMenu concept is/was transitional in learning how build apps without a menubar. Now that we're starting to really get contextual design down, it's starting to look like the AppMenu is superfluous for a lot of apps.

Having said that, if someone wants to propose an icon I have no problem testing it out. But I personally don't intend to spend a lot of time on something that we'll likely phase out. 

Best Regards,
Daniel Foré

El sep 30, 2012, a las 2:19 p.m., Cassidy James <cassidy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

> I think it's worth revisiting; however, I believe that we'll be pushing to get rid of that menu entirely in as many places as possible in the near future. Instead, we'll focus on more contextual preferences and more intelligent defaults. I kind of think changing it for Luna and then phasing it put soon after would be unnecessary.
> 
> On Sep 30, 2012 3:59 PM, "Keith Adair" <kjzz12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I think we'd be taking a major risk in changing that icon. To me, that cog has grown to be an iconic symbol of the elementary project, along with the two iterations of the "e" logo. It signifies simplification; that this program is so simple that it only requires on simple sub menu for options. A "lines" logo to me seems generic, and lacking in personality. The cog IS elementary, and has been since the meager days of elementary-nautilus. It seems to me that I would rather miss the little cog in exchange for a generic icon.
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>> On Sep 30, 2012 1:34 PM, "Craig" <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> I agree, Sam. I think this also highlights the importance of clearly defining the intentional function for various UI components. Perhaps it would be useful to separate out the various pieces of functionality into an "overflow" component and a "settings" component (or separate out the functionality differently).
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Sam Tate <s@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> 
>>>> I think it's useful to get a discussion going every now and then about certain UX paradigms, no matter how small (we're all about attention to detail, right?)
>>>> 
>>>> I really don't like the AppMenu icon. The concept is great - Android uses something very similar in the overflow menu, and other operating systems probably do too. It's a fantastic way to hide less commonly used buttons to stop the toolbar getting too cluttered. However, the cog icon doesn't make any sense to me. It sends the message of "Settings/Preferences" to the user, and this is not the only thing that the AppMenu is for. It houses About pages, functions (e.g. "Rescan music folder") and more. 
>>>> 
>>>> It would make more sense to change the icon to something similar to Chrome's "3 line" icon (http://i.imgur.com/ryKKG.png) which conveys the message much better.
>>>> 
>>>> We should ideally try to do this before Luna, since the AppMenu is such a core part of the OS, and we don't want to alienate the flocks of new Luna users in L+1 by changing it then ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> Sam Tate
>>>> 
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