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Re: Vala/Go


Granite is written in Vala, so I guess any gObject Introspection capable language should be very easy to use, especially those with dynamic binding, like Python. As far as C goes, Vala compiles to C anyway so that should be pretty easy as well, although I don't think most people would like to use C instead of a high level OOP language.

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Craig <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That brings me to a question I've had for a while--I'm not sure what goes into creating a C binding for any language, but is it possible to create a C binding to granite? If so, your proposal would be limited only by the availability of granite bindings. On the other hand, though I think Elementary development has a substantial barrier of entry, I don't know Elementary's goals of simplicity and consistency would be especially well-served by fragmenting the tools used. On the *other* other hand, it could also bring a lot of developer attention to the project, albeit Elementary's relatively small community, I think it would be difficult to find enough people to create and maintain bindings for all of those languages. Thoughts?

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jakob Eriksson <jakob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think there should be a tutorial for writing an Elementary HID compliant app in all popular languages,  Java, Python, C++, Go, Objective C and Ruby at least.

Craig <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx> skrev:

>@Chris, Syntactically, I think Vala is a great language. I'm dying to use >it, in fact! However, until I can get over the nasty project-management >hump, I'm afraid I'm out of the loop. And don't think project management >features are useful only to building and distribution. How can an IDE know >which symbols are available outside of the current file (for purposes such >as code verification, autocompletion, etc) without knowing something about >what files are available to the project? Decent project management features >are an important aspect of a language (for all kinds of purposes), and when >they are missing, non-standard, or overly complex; it makes the language
>@Sergey, I'm not confusing the two. As I mentioned in my response to Chris, >the two issues are linked--it's impractical to develop an application >without a simple, automatic project metadata management tool and Vala >doesn't seem to have one (I can't find _any_ information about bake online).
>To address your last paragraph, I don't know what the crux of the issue is >(nor what the best solution is), but useful programs haven't been single >files for decades; it's archaic to treat the project management concerns of >development as an afterthought when developing languages. Like you said, >why expose the developer to that unnecessary complexity? I have yet to find
>a better paradigm than Go's for mitigating that concern.
>On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Ryan Macnish <nisshh.ubuntu@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>> Go is brilliant, it has the best parts of c and the best parts of modern
>> languages built in.
>> On Apr 8, 2013 9:22 PM, "Craig" <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Happy Monday everyone,
>>> I wrote a brief comparison of Vala and Go (golang) that might be of >>> interest to some of you. Feel free to add your thoughts in the comments.
>>> http://craigmatthewweber.com/2013/04/06/vala-or-go/
>>> Enjoy,
>>> Craig
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