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[Nishant Agrwal <nishantagrwal12993@xxxxxxxxx>]

Granite is written in Vala, so I guess any gObject Introspection 
capable language should be very easy to use, especially those with 
dynamic binding, like Python. As far as C goes, Vala compiles to C 
anyway so that should be pretty easy as well, although I don't think 
most people would like to use C instead of a high level OOP language.

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Craig <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> That brings me to a question I've had for a while--I'm not sure what 
> goes into creating a C binding for any language, but is it possible 
> to create a C binding to granite? If so, your proposal would be 
> limited only by the availability of granite bindings. On the other 
> hand, though I think Elementary development has a substantial barrier 
> of entry, I don't know Elementary's goals of simplicity and 
> consistency would be especially well-served by fragmenting the tools 
> used. On the *other* other hand, it could also bring a lot of 
> developer attention to the project, albeit Elementary's relatively 
> small community, I think it would be difficult to find enough people 
> to create and maintain bindings for all of those languages. Thoughts?
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jakob Eriksson 
> <jakob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I think there should be a tutorial for writing an Elementary HID 
> > compliant app in all popular languages,  Java, Python, C++, Go, 
> > Objective C and Ruby at least.
> >
> > Craig <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx> skrev:
> >
> > >@Chris, Syntactically, I think Vala is a great language. I'm dying 
> > to use
> > >it, in fact! However, until I can get over the nasty 
> > project-management
> > >hump, I'm afraid I'm out of the loop. And don't think project 
> > management
> > >features are useful only to building and distribution. How can an 
> > IDE know
> > >which symbols are available outside of the current file (for 
> > purposes such
> > >as code verification, autocompletion, etc) without knowing 
> > something about
> > >what files are available to the project? Decent project management 
> > features
> > >are an important aspect of a language (for all kinds of purposes), 
> > and when
> > >they are missing, non-standard, or overly complex; it makes the 
> > language
> > >impractical.
> > >
> > >@Sergey, I'm not confusing the two. As I mentioned in my response 
> > to Chris,
> > >the two issues are linked--it's impractical to develop an 
> > application
> > >without a simple, automatic project metadata management tool and 
> > Vala
> > >doesn't seem to have one (I can't find _any_ information about bake 
> > online).
> > >
> > >To address your last paragraph, I don't know what the crux of the 
> > issue is
> > >(nor what the best solution is), but useful programs haven't been 
> > single
> > >files for decades; it's archaic to treat the project management 
> > concerns of
> > >development as an afterthought when developing languages. Like you 
> > said,
> > >why expose the developer to that unnecessary complexity? I have yet 
> > to find
> > >a better paradigm than Go's for mitigating that concern.
> > >
> > >
> > >On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Ryan Macnish 
> > <nisshh.ubuntu@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> > >
> > >> Go is brilliant, it has the best parts of c and the best parts of 
> > modern
> > >> languages built in.
> > >> On Apr 8, 2013 9:22 PM, "Craig" <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Happy Monday everyone,
> > >>>
> > >>> I wrote a brief comparison of Vala and Go (golang) that might be 
> > of
> > >>> interest to some of you. Feel free to add your thoughts in the 
> > comments.
> > >>> http://craigmatthewweber.com/2013/04/06/vala-or-go/
> > >>>
> > >>> Enjoy,
> > >>> Craig
> > >>>
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