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[Dashie <rainbowdash.dev@xxxxxxxxx>]

I'll admit that I'm not too sure if the user would want to donate 
before actually trying out the CD; the logic there seems a bit flawed. 
If AppCenter is really going to be used in Isis, perhaps an in-app 
payment system could be implemented, featuring elementary merchandise 
and options to donate?

It would make more sense that way, IMHO, since the user would actually 
have more of a reason to donate/pay.

Just an idea.

- Dash

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:25 AM, Pepijn de Vos <pepijndevos@xxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
> Oh yea, I think it's a great model. My main point with it is that the 
> flow is not optimal for how I think most people download/pay.
> I first want to try the software and then pay. But the website tries 
> to put this in one action.
> The other day someone on IRC joined specifically to ask if they could 
> pay without downloading, so I'm definitely not the only one.
>
> I really hope Elementary OS will succeed :)
>
> Pepijn
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Daniel Foré 
> <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > We hope it'll pay for the team too!  There's not quite enough coming 
> > in to pay a salary but we're getting close. 
> >
> > For now, it does pay for our hosting costs (we used to have ads), it 
> > pays to put bounties on bug reports (check BountySource), it has 
> > paid for travel expenses, it's allows us to purchase merchandise to 
> > increase our revenue streams, etc etc. elementary, LLC is a company 
> > and it does have expenses and it does have the eventual goal of 
> > employing developers once there is enough money.
> >
> > At the moment, the pay-what-you-want download is our largest revenue 
> > stream and there's no intention to move away from that model
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Daniel Foré
> > elementaryos.org
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:56 PM, pepijndevos@xxxxxxxxx 
> > <pepijndevos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > ‎It occurred to me that there where several things less than 
> > > optimal about making me pay for elementary.
> > >
> > >
> > > I kind of hoped it would pay for the team, but they are volunteers?
> > >
> > > First of all, it is not clear what the money is used for and why it 
> > > is needed. This sentence from the teams page seems essential: "it 
> > > takes a village to build an os"
> > >
> > > It is maybe also very slightly misleading that most of the 
> > > application on the homepage such as geary, shotwell and midori are 
> > > not elementary projects.
> > >
> > > Another thing is that the download button tries to make me pay and 
> > > download at the same time. While I first want a "trial" download, 
> > > and then pay afterwards without downloading again. 
> > >
> > > I don't have a solution. I think splitting the payment to another 
> > > button would make it less likely people click the "donation" button.
> > >
> > > An approach I have seen some projects take is basically advertising 
> > > the download as an unlimited trial, and have a nagging window to 
> > > make you pay.
> > >
> > > You are then allowed to pinky swear that you paid to make the 
> > > window go away.‎ In some cases kthulu comes to get you if you did 
> > > not actually pay.
> > >
> > > Pepijn
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