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Re: Desktop virtualization

 

Maybe a DaaS would be a good option?

We are evaluating this concept right now.

Pozdrawiam,
Regards,
Pawel
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On 16 January 2013 15:10, Bolesław Tokarski <boleslaw.tokarski@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thanks for the swift response. I think I failed to provide some useful
> details, as "virtualization" is quite a wide term.
>
> One of the projects inside Tieto is trying to find a VDI solution that
> would suit their needs. As Tieto we are offering Citrix's XenDesktop+XenApp
> suite, but that does not support Linux as a VDI appliance, just Windows (I
> believe).
>
> I believe the project is currently evaluating Ulteo, but as I recently
> read David Burke's blogpost about it (http://davidmburke.com/2012/**
> 12/04/review-of-ulteo-open-**virtual-desktop/<http://davidmburke.com/2012/12/04/review-of-ulteo-open-virtual-desktop/>)
> I thought I'd send them some other options as well.
>
> Meanwhile, I noted RHEV, proxmox and oVirt.
>
>
> On 01/16/2013 12:16 PM, Philipp Gassmann wrote:
>
>> Sidenote:
>> For accessing the Video Console of RHEV/oVirt, a Firefox extension is
>> needed. Unfortuately that package is not provided by official ubuntu
>> Repos. Even though Canonical is "strategic partner" of the oVirt
>> project, nobody seems to care.
>>
>> A while ago I opened a Bug where I asked and pushed for a package of
>> spice-xpi for Ubuntu.
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/**ubuntu/+bug/943510<https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/943510>
>>
>> Jason Brooks from Red Hat then created a package for Ubuntu and put it in
>> his PPA, which works fine.
>> https://launchpad.net/~**jasonbrooks/+archive/ppa<https://launchpad.net/~jasonbrooks/+archive/ppa>
>>
> Somewhere like 2 years ago I evaluated RHEV. As it was not long since the
> acquisition of Qumranet by RedHat, it still required Windows for a number
> of things, including backend servers (MS SQL anyone?).
>
> There were spice packages for RedHat Desktop, but nothing for Ubuntu. Even
> going the make && make install way did not work. In the meanwhile there
> were discussions between RedHat and Debian devs about the version of a
> library used in spice and that it was incompatible with the one shipped to
> the world.
>
> I know it's not that bad any more, I mean - there are standalone Spice
> clients available.
>
> I checked the spice-xpi package from Jason Brooks. There's no wonder it
> does not work between distros/archs - it's a plugin, compiled on the
> particular system. Praise to Jason Brooks for actually providing the
> package in his PPA, because that actually does the actual job (packaging
> spice-xpi for Ubuntu). The rest is procedures or politics.
>
> I guess the best way to get this into Ubuntu's repository is to get it
> included in Debian first.
>
>
> On 01/16/2013 12:18 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
>
>>  I'm working with KVM and I'm about to test the Desktop Virtualization
>> called SPICE.
>>
>>  After that, I'll see if it can be used within Openstack...
>>
>>  Also, my servers have IOMMU and 3 GPUs (Radeon 7970) and I'm planning to
>> pass those GPUs to the Virtual Machine. But I think it doesn't work with
>> SPICE... Maybe XCP (Open Source XenServer) with VDI can help me with this,
>> but I don't know yet...
>>
>>  I'd say that's pretty complicated and I am not sure what you can achieve
> with this - if you have hardware acceleration in the VM (by passing the GPU
> to the VM with IOMMU which is cool) and you pass the video to a remote
> client over LAN (a bottleneck). SPICE does it in a smart way by providing a
> virtual GPU to the VM and using the remote client's hardware acceleration
> capabilities, thus not hitting the LAN bottleneck.
>
> I do not think that XCP will help you, either. The Citrix XenServer
> commercial product that has all the possible video acceleration built-in
> also offloads rendering to the remote client.
>
> Sorry, but unless you run a monitor connected directly to the server's
> GPU, you'll have no use of any VDI. Unless for mathematical computations
> that recent GPUs can do, which is also cool.
>
> Cheers,
> Ballock
>
>
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