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[Johan Hake <johan.hake@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Wednesday February 9 2011 10:14:51 Johan Hake wrote:
> On Wednesday February 9 2011 10:10:04 Anders Logg wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 09:52:21AM -0800, Johan Hake wrote:
> > > Hello!
> > > 
> > > UCSD is not willing to sign the consent statement about GPL 3...
> > > 
> > > From the answer I got:
> > >   LGPL incorporates GPL 3, and that is the problem. Earlier versions of
> > >   the GPL did not deal in patent rights, while Version 3 does. It would
> > >   commit a license to the entire UC patent estate, whether the
> > >   inventors were an informed participant or not. I would need to
> > >   consult further with UC General Counsel for a detailed answer, but
> > >   the spirit is that the license overreaches in its commitments to
> > >   patent rights beyond what the university is willing to do.
> > 
> > That seems strange. So UCSD will want to retain the right to sue users
> > of DOLFIN if you should happen to add code to DOLFIN that infringes on
> > some patent held by UCSD?
> 
> I have no clue what it means. But I will ask.

Here is a more elaborated explaination:

  The language is pretty clear in section 11 of the GPL V3 license - it
  commits all the rights of the Licensor (the Regents of the University of
  California) to a license. Our normal licensing practice is to license one
  technology at a time, and we do not license the other patents along with it.
  Our guiding principles for licensing are at this link

  <http://invent.ucsd.edu/faculty/policies/guiding-principles.shtml>

Johan


> > > Are there any others that have got a similare answer?
> > 
> > No problems so far. Here's what we have so far:
> >   http://www.fenicsproject.org/pub/copyright/authors/
> >   http://www.fenicsproject.org/pub/copyright/institutions/
> 
> I guess the Cambridge statement is not correct?
> 
> Johan
> 
> > --
> > Anders
> > 
> > > Johan
> > > 
> > > On Tuesday February 1 2011 08:44:01 you wrote:
> > > > Dear contributors to the FEniCS Project,
> > > > 
> > > > As discussed earlier on the mailing list, we are going to collect
> > > > copyright consent forms for all material produced by the FEniCS
> > > > Project.
> > > > 
> > > > We do this for two reasons:
> > > > 
> > > > 1. Relicensing of all software under the GNU LGPL v3 (or later).
> > > > 
> > > > 2. As a protection against authors and/or employers that may want to
> > > > revoke code contributed to the FEniCS Project in the future.
> > > > 
> > > > What we need from you is to download the following two forms:
> > > >   Author consent form
> > > >   Institution consent form
> > > > 
> > > > from http://www.fenicsproject.org/pub/copyright/forms/
> > > > 
> > > > Then sign and send the forms (by regular mail) to
> > > > 
> > > >   Johannes Ring
> > > >   Simula Research Laboratory
> > > >   PO Box 134
> > > >   1325 Lysaker
> > > >   Norway
> > > > 
> > > > Johannes will administer the collection of the forms. Scanned copies
> > > > of all signed forms will be made available on the FEniCS web site.
> > > > 
> > > > Note that only one Institution consent form needs to be signed for
> > > > each institution (if there are multiple authors employed by the same
> > > > institution).
> > > > 
> > > > We would like to have the forms as soon as possible, preferrably
> > > > within 2 weeks (Feb 15) so that we have time to relicense all the
> > > > software for the upcoming release of FEniCS 1.0 (in March).
> > > > 
> > > > Direct any questions to me or to the mailing list.
> 
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