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Re: [feature status] Master node upgrade (python + puppet + lxc vs docker)

 

Matt

You can easily rewrite puppet modules by writing Puppet provider for Docker
exec and applying puppet defaults class by class: e.g:

Exec {provider=>Docker, ENV=>"export container_id=#{ID}"}


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Bogdan Dobrelya <bdobrelia@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> On 02/10/2014 03:07 PM, Dmitry Ilyin wrote:
> > Actually it's a very promising idea to move to atomic lxc container for
> > our master node.
> >
> > Volumes used to run these containers could be packaged and easily
> > installed or updated by just replacing the file by the new version.
> > Container will also be compleatly independent and any changing would not
> > break any neighbour container. (Well... except database structures...)
> >
> > Such containers will be able to speak to each other through unix or tcp
> > sockets.
> > Building such containers will require us to invent some automated system
> > but their installation and use would be much more reliable then our
> > current technology.
> > This method can also combine configuration flexibility of
> > puppet-deployed nodes with speed and reliability of image-based
> > provisioned systems.
> >
> > We should also look into using the same approach for controller and even
> > compute nodes. It could help us to find solution to our long lasting
> > OpenStack upgrading problem.
> AFIK, the main issue of Openstack upgrades is DB schema related (all
> objects must have a versioning info, see
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/unified-object-model, for
> example). I doubt docker could help here. Please correct me, If I'm wrong.
> >
> >
> > 2014-02-10 Evgeniy L <eli@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eli@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
> >
> >     Hi,
> >
> >
> >     As many of you may already know we started design/implementation of
> >     master node upgrade feature. Here you can read the design document
> >     <
> https://docs.google.com/a/mirantis.com/document/d/1Mem9LP7ysaHNNSltlCLPw36jHix5ULlKmsMgTViHfog/
> >.
> >
> >
> >     So, it's just status update of this feature.
> >
> >     We want to use docker as containers management tool.
> >
> >
> >     *Here is Docker's pros and cons*
> >
> >     Pros
> >
> >     +
> >
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17989306/what-does-docker-add-to-just-plain-lxc
> >
> >     + rest API (it will be very useful in case of plugins, when we'll be
> >     able to setup new container from inside another container)
> >
> >     + lxc requires us to design our own build process and networking
> >
> >     + docker has a standard dockerfile format and tools to build images
> >     and store them in git and do version management
> >
> >     Cons
> >
> >     - additional complexity
> >
> >     - non-persistent containers, it can be solved with volumes
> >
> >
> http://www.tech-d.net/2013/12/16/persistent-volumes-with-docker-container-as-volume-pattern/
> >
> >
> http://www.offermann.us/2013/12/tiny-docker-pieces-loosely-joined.html
> >
> >     http://crosbymichael.com/advanced-docker-volumes.html
> >
> >     - regarding non-persistent containers will be a lot of questions
> >     like "I patched nailgun but when I rerun container all changes are
> >     gone" (can be solved with documentation)
> >
> >
> >     Let us know if you have any ideas or questions.
> >
> >     Thanks
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bogdan Dobrelya,
> Skype #bogdando_at_yahoo.com
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>
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