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Re: Feedback from Fuel 4.1 install by new user

 

I'm working on it :). It's not easy when someone is playing with a number
of tools and is not (yet?) interesting in contributing bug reports to a
single specific one

---
Regards,
Dmitriy


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Roman Alekseenkov <ralekseenkov@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> wrote:

> Dmitry,
>
> Can you convince your prospect to file these bugs?
>
> Nastya,
>
> #1-#3 sound like usability issues. Should be tested/addressed on our end.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Dmitriy Novakovskiy <
> dnovakovskiy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Just checked w/ the guy - items 1-3 happened while he was installing Fuel
>> master from dvd. 1 and 2 are actually surprising.
>>
>> ---
>> Regards,
>> Dmitriy
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Mike Scherbakov <
>> mscherbakov@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Dmitry,
>>> good source of info for QA to try things out in mentioned directions,
>>> and file bugs with detailed description.
>>>
>>> Anyone's contribution into this is very welcome.
>>>
>>> > *Seems like root passwords are non-randomized for daughter
>>> installations (e.g. openstack controller), these should be randomized / at
>>> least non-default or let me change what 'default' root password for systems
>>> should be*
>>> There is blueprint to address this:
>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/password-for-console-login.
>>> Actually it is not that dangerous: there is possible access to the
>>> system only via console, so you have to have physical access / remote KVM
>>> (which is usually under password) to servers.
>>>
>>> > *Installs should work WITHOUT DNS/internet,*
>>> was designed to be so, and I believe it does work... QA to assure us in
>>> this. I believe we should even have system test for it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Meg McRoberts <mmcroberts@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great info, Dmitriy!  And yes, we need a straight-forward Installation
>>>> Guide for bare-metal that guides
>>>> the user through the basic, common steps; we also need a User Guide
>>>> that is simple and straightforward
>>>> for information about general maintenance/admin tasks after
>>>> installation.
>>>>
>>>> These guides can link to sections in other docs that include more
>>>> background information and advanced
>>>> methods.  I hope to implement this for 5.0.
>>>>
>>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-docs-restructure
>>>>
>>>> meg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Dmitriy Novakovskiy <
>>>> dnovakovskiy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently got the below list of points from one of prospects who
>>>>> played w/ Fuel 4.1.
>>>>> The description is pretty vague and triggers questions (even from me),
>>>>> but I really don't have time now to go deep and ask for details.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, if any points here seem interesting/worth of investigation -
>>>>> please reach out to me, I'll share the contact information for someone to
>>>>> reach out to this person.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Here is a breakdown of what seems to be insufficient error
>>>>>> checking:  1.       If there is a DHCP server on the network, system
>>>>>> doesn't gracefully exit, and requires a re-install from scratch 2.       If
>>>>>> there is no internet access (with dns) / dns not on network, "
>>>>>> 3.       Install should do EVERYTHING on the first go, or at least tell me
>>>>>> its necessary to keep the cdrom in the drive, and to boot from hard disk.
>>>>>> Rebooting twice and resuming from cdrom only causes it to blow itself away
>>>>>> again 4.       Seems like root passwords are non-randomized for daughter
>>>>>> installations (e.g. openstack controller), these should be randomized / at
>>>>>> least non-default or let me change what 'default' root password for systems
>>>>>> should be 5.       Fuel doesn't use HTTPS 6.       Installs should work
>>>>>> WITHOUT DNS/internet, or should be clearly stated in start up guide.  In
>>>>>> fact, a 'quick start' guide for bare metal folks would be extremely useful.
>>>>>> Finally, the 'default' network setup seems to foobar overlapping ranges,
>>>>>> and never offers to correct them. This is confusing, and causes the user to
>>>>>> have to figure out where it is. Will provide more feedback as I get further
>>>>>> in. The initial installation of Controller seems to work great once
>>>>>> everything is up.*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dmitriy
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Scherbakov
>>> #mihgen
>>>
>>
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