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[Michael Chelen <michael.chelen@xxxxxxxxx>]

What was the actual disagreement or misunderstanding?

How about forking the site for the Debian distro? It would have most
of the same material as Ubuntu only without any authority by
Canonical.


On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Paulo Dias <paulo.miguel.dias@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi joao, im very sad you had to come to this decision, but i can understand
> and respect your point of view.
>
> Im more a kubuntu guy myself (all the way up to ninja status lol), and i
> agree that canonical has made some bade moves over the last few months.
>
> For the time being, kubuntu as a siste project is still very much untouched
> from mark ego, so ill go along with them - for the time being.
>
> I think you should reconsider and send an open letter to mark, stating what
> you think should be adressed for a better open governance. Quitting (for the
> lack of a better word) is never a good option for a project. Im not saying i
> dont understand and respect your opinion and decision, im just saying you
> should sleep it over, take a deep breath and use getdeb power (which is
> considerable) to "force" mark/canonical to more reasonable terms.
>
> Anyway, if you insist in departing from your leading role, ill respect that
> and welcome Korn as our new leader (but hoping you change your mind).
>
> Ive been a veteran of this project (even older then christoph i believe :)),
> although not much active this past year (and for that i apologize), and i
> would hate to see you and your positive work be lost in the current
> canonical turmoil.
>
> Vent it, bitch about it but dont leave. you can change things with much more
> influence from inside then from the outside.
>
> Anyway, just my 2 cents.
>
> Hope to hear from you soon.
>
> Um seu criado :)
>
> | Paulo Dias
> | IT Consulting
> | paulo.miguel.dias@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 14:55, Joao Pinto <joao.pinto@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> as some of you may know I am retiring myself from the Ubuntu community.
>>
>> The main reasons are:
>> - Either Ubuntu is taking a different direction from the one I have
>> understood when I joined, or I just misunderstood Ubuntu's initial direction
>> at all, it is likely be the later since from my conversations there are
>> other community members which  share the same understanding and agree with
>> it.
>> - It is clearly communicated that Canonical is the single sponsor of the
>> Ubuntu project, however it is frequently omitted that Canonical has FULL
>> decision capacity over all aspects of the project, either direct or indirect
>> (nominated boards), such miscommunication either intentional or accidental
>> does not allow me to trust Canonical, sponsorship SHOULD NOT grant
>> unrestricted and undefined capacities, such does not happen on real business
>> projects, it is even worse from the fact that the project includes volunteer
>> work
>>
>> Some of you may not find it reasonable, but when we devote so much free
>> time of our lives to a project, we must firmly believe to be done according
>> to our principles.
>>
>> Despite the very small team GetDeb is an healthy project, it has a large
>> user base, and it does not depend on me neither financially nor
>> operationally.
>> Christoph Korn has been co-administrating with me for quite some time, he
>> is also the biggest package contributor, he is in the right position to take
>> the leadership of the project.
>>
>> I will be transferring to him all GetDeb related assets:
>> - GetDeb/PlayDeb domain ownership
>> - Launchpad groups ownership (I am not sure yet how to achieve that)
>> - Subscription funds (I have 1k € which belong to GetDeb)
>> - Subscription records (We will need to engage subscribers to
>> re-subscribe)
>> - www/abs hosting contacts and non formal agreed conditions
>> Note: I still need to move wiki.getdeb.net from my friend hosting to
>> either www/abs
>>
>> I will continue present and available for the project as a technical
>> collaborator and adviser.
>>
>> --
>> João Luís Marques Pinto
>> GetDeb Team Leader
>> http://www.getdeb.net
>> http://blog.getdeb.net
>>
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