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Re: A few extra component footprins

 

On Sat, 7 Aug 2010, Alex G wrote:

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On 08/06/2010 10:04 PM, Vesa Solonen wrote:
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010, Alex G wrote:

I've been struck by Kicad's lack of all but the most basic footprints.
As such, I have started drawing some footprints, and would like to get
them into the official Kicad release ASAP.

I might put some prerelease directory for unchecked libraries, but I
fear no symbol-footprint associations will get there. Maybe I'll spend
my sunday pondering the library structure. Any ideas from everybody are
appreciated. In short form, please.

Here's a short list of the footprints I'm currently working on

TDFN-EP 6, 8, 10, and 14 pin
This is a 3x3mm package, and I also have a basic 3D model for it
More info on this package at:
http://pdfserv.maxim-ic.com/package_dwgs/21-0137.PDF

This is definitely something to be added to the generating script for:
http://www.uni-c.dtu.dk/~univind/kicad/oaa_smd_qfn.brd

I've added these to my QFN (+DFN+TDFN) lib.

There's one thing that puzzles me - the Maxim datasheet lists two
versions of the package for N=8 and three each for N=10 and 14,
but unless I'm blind, all variants have identical dimensions ?

I've added only one of each N :-)

Sharp S202S02 - Solid-State relay
I have a beta 3D-model and footprint for this.
More at:
http://www.parallax.com/Portals/0/Downloads/docs/prod/compshop/400-00053Datasheet.pdf


Molex Micro-fit connectors
Nothing yet here, but am plannig to get footprints and 3D models for the
entire line (SMD and throughhole; single-row and double-row).
(Luckily, Molex provides 3D models for these).
http://www.molex.com/molex/common/staticLoader.jsp?fileName=/cmc_upload/0/000/0-8/368/w-b-matrix/wtb-matrix.html&pageTitle=Introduction&chanName=family&channel=products&key=microfit_30


With these I'm happy with hand drawn stuff, but for the connectors I'd
suggest working with Oyvind. Just in case a scripted way can be
developed easily enough. I've used those SSRs with just very rudimentary
fooprint, so I thank you in advance :)

I've forwarded the discussion to Oyvind. Took some time as Gmail
IMAP/SMTP was down for several hours. I'll see what he has to say, and
get back as soon as I hear from him.

As you may tell by now, I am the definition of noob.
I draw the footprints with Inventor, export them as IGES, import the
IGES in FreeCAD, export it as .obj, and finally import that into Wings
3D.
I'm not very good with applying colors, so help from someone with more
experience is greatly appreciated.

I've been hearing some fuss about a scripted approach to generating
footprints. Does anyone have examples on that?

Please take a look at http://www.uni-c.dtu.dk/~univind/kicad/

Then, how do I get the files to the right place? Can I just attach them
to the emails, or should I rather upload them to a public place and only
send the link?

Kicad-newlib on Launchpad for bigger work, but ocassional stuff is fine
on the list or even directly to me. Ping on the list first is a good
practice.

There's also a question on 3D-modles for packages that don't have
protruding pins, such as TDFN. Should I draw the pins on the model, or
will a rectangular box do? This is more a matter of aestethics. I'm not
lazy, just trying to avoid extra work if it has no meaning.

Again I'd like to point you to Oydvind's work.

I've been hearing discussions about a format change for library files. I
think that getting the footprints in properly with the current format,
and then converting them if/when that happens is the best choice. Having
to import several libraries in each project is time consuming, and it
would be nice to have them in the default install.

I'm leaning towards incomplete newlib as a branch in release library.
Just a bunch of symbols with coherent style, footprints and 3D without
association data. When file format features get ready, we'll start
actual component specific data gathering for pin/part swap etc. When the
branch is strong enough we may chop the old trunk away. Any objections
to that?

If that means that the footprints will be in the official release, no
objection. We can always add the associations later.

Alex
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