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[Collin Anderson <metacollin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hah, 10.6 support was pretty much accidental.  In fact, I also think 10.7 ought to be the oldest 'official' supported version, but thats just my personal opinion, FWIW.

Resolving those issues preventing 10.6 support was a side effect, not the goal.  The main purpose was some minor changes to some cmake files regarding boost and python. Apple has deprecated linking to the Python framework and has removed the Python.framework entirely from the OS X 10.9+ SDKs.  Programs that have python scriptability are now required to embed their own python framework and interpreter in the .app bundle, or link to the 10.8 or earlier OS X SDK, as per https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/technotes/tn2328/_index.html <https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/technotes/tn2328/_index.html> 

wxPython completely ignores all of this and happily links to the System framework, which works great as long as you don't plan on using that binary on other versions of OS X :). I couldn't get it to work with 10.7, only to 10.8, as it is now, despite 10.10's python being 'gcc 4.2.1 compatible'.  

 wxPython ought to check the cflags and set the MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET environment variable, which will make the build fail hard (as intended, the System's python framework checks for this specifically). If it isn't set though, it will set it to the current system's version.  Which is what happens now, regardless of our desired os x build version. Er, its kind of a mess, and snowballs into some stdlibc++ vs. libc++ awfulness but I digress. Thats what I've been working on and address in the branch.  I tried 10.6 for the heck of it as the official redistributable python framework supported 10.6+, and it seemed to work without issue. 

Anyway, I should have that branch up sometime today.  
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The Electropimp - Collin Anderson
metacollin@xxxxxxxxxxxx

> On Jan 4, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Great!  It's good to have another OS X person interested in helping out!
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> The .app bundle work was mostly done by Bernhard, but I'm working on a osxbuilder (similar in philosophy to the winbuilder), that rearranges some things and creates a pretty dmg that does things users expect, with the proper documentation and all.  It's been "a few hours away from being done" for about 2 months now, as the scope slowly increases :)
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> I'm not certain that we want to support 10.6 though.  If we "officially" support it we probably have to test on it, and they haven't done security updates for it in about a year.  
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> One of the open issues is the dropdowns at the top of the windows.  They don't quite work right in OS X.  Someone on the list started investigating, but I haven't heard much recently on it.
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> Adam Wolf
> Cofounder and Engineer
> W&L
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> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Collin Anderson <metacollin@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:metacollin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Great, thanks for the quick response! I noticed some PPC architecture stuff in the download_boost cmake module, so I was worried 10.5 or even 10.4u were the goal.   10.7 is much more reasonable :).  Also, great work on the OS X build, .app bundles can be a headache to deal with using traditional build systems/workflows. 
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> I *think* I may have resolved the issues preventing a 10.6+ build, once I finish checking some things, I'll put a branch up on launchpad later today hopefully. 
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> Oh, and is there anything specific that no one is working on OS X-wise? I'd be happy to see what I can do, and that's probably my main expertise (OS X development and dealing with its unique 'quirks').  Otherwise I'll keep getting acquainted with the code and reading the dev list until I can hopefully find something useful to contribute.  Anyway, thanks for the help!
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> The Electropimp - Collin Anderson
> metacollin@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:metacollin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> On Jan 4, 2015, at 9:03 AM, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> So far, we have been able to support building for 10.7 and newer.  
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>> Older than that, and we have problems with dependencies and compiler interactions.  
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>> (This isn't an official policy but I don't think there is one at this point.)
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>> Adam Wolf
>> Cofounder and Engineer
>> W&L
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>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Collin Anderson <metacollin@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:metacollin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> Hi, I wanted to ask the OS X developers a quick question.  What is the oldest version of OS X that is intended to officially be supported by KiCad? I want to know what to target for testing any changes/additions I may make.  Thanks!
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>> The Electropimp - Collin Anderson
>> metacollin@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:metacollin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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