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[Miguel Ángel Ajo <majopela@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Can’t users just change that reference to their own path on their own fp-lib-table  
instead of the ENV var reference if they don’t want the system modules?

That would be reasonable enough to me.



Miguel Ángel Ajo


On Thursday, 8 de January de 2015 at 13:53, Adam Wolf wrote:

> I hear what you're saying.
> I don't really like the idea of using environment variables to drive the behavior of GUI programs, especially in OS X.  They're tricky in OS X, and they're hard to explain to a lot of users.
> Fixing this through changing the behavior of how KISYSMOD and probably the other environment variables work in Kicad is probably a fair bit of work, at least a week or two--when you include developer discussion, regression testing on other platforms, stuff like that, probably even longer.
> I'm not 100% happy about it, but would something like this be an OK stopgap measure while we figure out the right thing moving forward?  I am fine only putting this patch in my builds.
> Adam Wolf
> Cofounder and Engineer
> Wayne and Layne  
> On Jan 8, 2015 6:26 AM, "Bernhard Stegmaier" <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
> > Hi Adam, hi all,  
> > that IMHO could be problematic (depends on what you intend to have).
> > For a single-user environment this might be OK, but it then forces modules to be in a machine specific folder common to all users. In a multi-user environment you probably might not want to have that. And, I never read somewhere that you can override this setting of the bundle somehow, so this could be a once and for all decision (as long as you don't fiddle around with the Info.plist) and you wouldn't need an environment variable at all...
> > Further, I think I tried once to use "~" or "$HOME" in Info.plist but it doesn't expand such variables. So, you obviously can't set the path to something in user home with this method.  
> > Last, I don't know if always any (non-root) user is allowed to write into /Library/Application Support/kicad?  
> > In my opinion, the old concept of search paths did fit such hardcoded paths much better than it is currently with environment variables. If environment variables are too hard to set, then probably a configuration setting directly from some "Settings" menu would be better.
> > My opionion: I wouldn't want to have it that way, but since I am the only one using KiCad on my machines I can also live with some links pushing things into the spot I want to have it.  
> > This altogether is somewhat inconsistent, because eeschema will *always* look in <base>/library with <base> being (in that order):
> > * $KICAD
> > * ~/Library/Application Support
> > * /Library/Application Support
> > * <kicad.app>/Contents/SharedSupport   
> > So, if the path should be fixed for pcbnew, I would at least expect eeschema to behave the same way (i.e., removing all the other paths and also pointing it to the one global /Library/Application/Support/kicad/library).  
> >   
> > Regards,
> > Bernhard   
> > PS:
> > I just had a brief look at the Apple docs and did see here
> > https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/General/Reference/InfoPlistKeyReference/Articles/LaunchServicesKeys.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20001431-106825  
> > that obviously the environment set in the Info-plist is only valid when launching via an icon, but not via command-line:
> > <<<
> > These environment variables are set only for apps launched through Launch Services. If you run your executable directly from the command line, these environment variables are not set.  
> > >>>  
> > So, another issue that already now with the KIGITHUB variable might lead to confusion...
> >   
> >   
> > On 2015-01-08 06:52, Adam Wolf wrote:
> > > Hi folks,  
> > >   
> > > As you may know, it's harder than it seems to set an environment variable on a bundle in OS X as a user.
> > >   
> > > I have a patch here for the OS X bundle that sets KISYSMOD to /Library/Application Support/kicad/modules
> > >   
> > > Please let me know if there are any questions or comments.
> > >   
> > > Thanks!
> > >   
> > > Adam Wolf
> > > Cofounder and Engineer
> > > W&L
> > >  
> > >  
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