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Hi Marcos,R12 does not support ellipses, so ellipses are converted to lines saving the file ... R12 will solve ellipses import in kicad
Unfortunately R12 supports POLYLINEs, and kicad not.A good solution is to open palta2.dxf, select the object and explode it (I'm using LibreCAD 2.0.8 in windows:
Select object, Menu Modify Explode) Then save your path in R12 and import in kicad!So at the moment I see that a nice improvement, as you suggested, would be to add a warning in the import dialog saying "use R12 dxf version without polyline"
Attached the dxf and kicad board correctly imported :) Maurice On 09/09/2015 15.31, Marcos Chaparro wrote:
Thanks a lot Maurice, so the solution for a complex outline is to draw it directly in librecad. Its good to know that exporting to R12 is not bulletproof. I don't see exporting upgrades coming into freecad, or polyline support coming into kicad either. As Cirilo told us, it seems reasonable to me that the mcad could reduce the representation to a more complex (and simpler at the same time) representation. A 'cheap' improvement would be to add a warning in the import dialog saying "polyline not supported". It would narrow down the problem for the user, right now all the feedback we have is a shape with lines instead of arcs. Its interesting that it doesn't totally fail, the import actually manages to draw lines with the correct start/finish points, it only loses angle information, see attached. Marcos On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:24 AM, easyw <easyw@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:easyw@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Hi Marcos and Marco, please find attached the dxf that I did from scratch using 4 arcs in LibreCAD I copied manually the path from palta2.dxf, then exported in dxf R12 The result is fine in kicad and I get a closed path also for Edge cuts. in kicad there are 4 arcs (gr_arc (start 178.564202 123.937945) (end 153.273203 83.107373) (angle -26.04011298) (layer Edge.Cuts) (width 0.1)) (gr_arc (start 156.68577 88.642784) (end 162.837792 90.749678) (angle -140.5586133) (layer Edge.Cuts) (width 0.1)) (gr_arc (start 196.246745 102.229265) (end 162.837792 90.749678) (angle -22.2858684) (layer Edge.Cuts) (width 0.1)) (gr_arc (start 148.500893 105.004408) (end 137.915937 98.354967) (angle -215.4739741) (layer Edge.Cuts) (width 0.1)) If you search inside palta2.dxf you find POLYLINE that are not supported by kicad attached a comparison of dxf files I suspect that the problem is when exporting dxf from FreeCAD... I had some trouble with a different board path exported from FreeCAD... In FreeCAD you cannot select which version of dxf you want to use, if I remember correctly... Maurice On 09/09/2015 07.43, Marco Hess wrote: Definitely a problem with the DXF importer I would say as the resulting data in the PCB file are just straight line segments: (gr_line (start 42.68541 28.017695) (end 52.25 35.66) (layer Edge.Cuts) (width 0.1)) (gr_line (start 27.328145 43.265288) (end 42.68541 28.017695) (layer Edge.Cuts) (width 0.1)) (gr_line (start 50.392159 49.187096) (end 27.328145 43.265288) (layer Edge.Cuts) (width 0.1)) (gr_line (start 52.25 35.66) (end 50.392159 49.187096) (layer Edge.Cuts) (width 0.1)) Marco On 09-Sep-15 14:58, Marco Hess wrote: Hi Marcos, Apologies, but I did not see your original email where you said you tried the R12 format alreayd. I tried it as well and and it indeed seems to do something strange with just connecting the end points of the circles or something. Regards, Marco On 09-Sep-15 14:29, Marco Hess wrote: KiCad DXF import for those kind of segments don't work very well. You need to re-export the DXF in a DXF R12 format. You can do that easily by opening the DXF in LibreCAD and then reexporting in R12 format. See http://docs.kicad-pcb.org/Pcbnew/Pcbnew.html#_creating_a_board Section 6.1.2 and 6.1.3. Cheers, Marco On 09-Sep-15 14:24, Marcos Chaparro wrote: Seems that is kind of Berzier Curve, not few arcs. Probably that shape needs to split to single arcs before import. Um, I don't know if its converted to a bezier curve, but I'm sure I made it from 4 arcs, see attached. _______________________________________________ Mailing list:https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to :kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Unsubscribe :https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help :https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Marco Hess Through IP Pty. 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