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[André S. <list.dev.kicad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Nick,

I try to detail it again and hope I can make clear what I mean:
- currently you can in 4.0.7 Legacy canvas
  * toggle the Value and Reference option in Visibility:Elements.
  When you do that:
  * Value/Reference are displayed or hidden according to the status of 
the Element control.
  The state of the _Layer option_ F.SilkS/B.SilkS and F.Fab/B.Fab have 
_no influence_ on the visibility of Value/Reference.

- when you switch to OpenGL or Cairo Value/Reference _disappear_ on the 
PCB when F.SilkS/B.SilkS and F.Fab/B.Fab are _unset_ in the Layer 
options regardless that Value/Reference option are set in Elements.
Value/Reference are in OpenGL/Cairo only _displayed_ when *.SilkS/*.Fab 
are _set_ *and* the Element control for Value/Reference are set.

This is independent from the actual PCB project. (I tried it on three 
different projects)
In the current Nightly all canvases act the same as OpenGL/Cairo in 
4.0.7. (Legacy in 4.0.7 behaves differently as Legacy in Nightly.)

I hope this made it clearer.

  André


Am 2018-01-04 um 14:18 schrieb Nick Østergaard:
> 2018-01-04 <tel:20%2018%2001%2004> 9:55 GMT+01:00 André S. 
> <list.dev.kicad@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:list.dev.kicad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>
>     Hi everyone,
>
>     I discovered some not consistent behaviour in the current stable
>     release:
>     On the Legacy canvas you can display Value of the footprint by
>     enabling Value option under Elements in the Visibility menu.
>     This is not true for OpenGL and Cairo canvas.
>     In the Nightly from 2018-01-02 <tel:2018-01-02> Legacy shows the
>     same behaviour as OpenGL and Cairo. There Value is only visible
>     when F.Fab is visible.
>     This means 5.0 will show consistent behaviour over all canvases. Fine.
>     The same is true with References and F.SilkS layer.
>
>     What is missing with this solution is the possibility to be able
>     to only display Value/Reference of a footprint as the current
>     stable release Legacy canvas allows. (I really like this feature
>     because it removes a lot of visual noise on the PCB during layout
>     design).
>
>
> I don't understand you. There is still the toggle for references and 
> values in the render (elemente) tab. I don't understand why you 
> exemplify it with 4.0.7 when you say there is no regression. Please 
> illustrate what you would like to have and attach an example kicad_pcb 
> file, it is easier to comment on that.
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1741015
>
>     I do think the behaviour of Legacy was always there, therefore my
>     confusion with the Values and References not visible when
>     switching canvases.
>     Is there any chance that in future there will be an option (again)
>     to toggle Value and Reference visibility independently from F.Fab
>     and F.Silks?
>
>     Best Regards,
>       André
>
>     PS: xkcd reference: https://xkcd.com/1172/ ;)
>
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