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Re: Default Canvas for v5

 

Jon,

That fixed it.  I merged your patch into the dev branch.  Thank you for
your contribution.

Cheers,

Wayne

On 01/04/2018 09:27 AM, Jon Evans wrote:
> Hi Wayne, try the attached version to fix this.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     It compiles now but I found an issue.  If the user runs pcbnew with the
>     OpenGL canvas selected, switches to the legacy canvas, and closes
>     pcbnew, the dialog will show up the next time they launch pcbnew.  If
>     the user is already using the OpenGL canvas, then showing the dialog
>     after the user switches to the legacy canvas doesn't make sense.  I'm
>     guessing if the user switched to the opengl canvas to the legacy canvas.
>     that the user understands why they would want to do that so the dialog
>     is unnecessary.
> 
>     On 01/04/2018 08:42 AM, Jon Evans wrote:
>     > Sorry about that, attached the wrong patch file.
>     >
>     > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hey Jon,
>     >
>     >     Did you forget to add a file to this patch?  I'm getting the following
>     >     build error:
>     >
>     >     CMakeFiles/gerbview_kiface.dir/gerbview_frame.cpp.o: In function
>     >     `GERBVIEW_FRAME::GERBVIEW_FRAME(KIWAY*, wxWindow*)':
>     >     /home/wayne/src/kicad/kicad-trunk/gerbview/gerbview_frame.cpp:218:
>     >     undefined reference to
>     >     `EDA_DRAW_FRAME::ShowFirstRunDialog(EDA_DRAW_FRAME*)'
>     >
>     >     I don't see a ShowFirstRunDialog() in the patch.
>     >
>     >     Wayne
>     >
>     >
>     >     On 01/03/2018 10:27 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
>     >     > Hi Wayne, Nick,
>     >     >
>     >     > Updated patch attached with your suggestions.
>     >     >
>     >     > -Jon
>     >     >
>     >     > On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>
>     >     > <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     Hmm, maybe it is ok to use the technical terms OpenGL and Cairo in
>     >     >     the help text for the menu item. Afterall those terms have been used
>     >     >     a lot in help forums and launchpad, so it may make it easier for the
>     >     >     curious to discover.
>     >     >
>     >     >     2018-01-03 21:15 GMT+01:00 Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>
>     >     >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>>:
>     >     >
>     >     >         There is also wxRichMessageDialog[1] which has an
>     optional
>     >     >         checkbox for
>     >     >         show once features.
>     >     >
>     >     >         [1]:
>     >     >       
>      http://docs.wxwidgets.org/3.0/classwx_rich_message_dialog.html
>     <http://docs.wxwidgets.org/3.0/classwx_rich_message_dialog.html>
>     >   
>      <http://docs.wxwidgets.org/3.0/classwx_rich_message_dialog.html
>     <http://docs.wxwidgets.org/3.0/classwx_rich_message_dialog.html>>
>     >     >       
>      <http://docs.wxwidgets.org/3.0/classwx_rich_message_dialog.html
>     <http://docs.wxwidgets.org/3.0/classwx_rich_message_dialog.html>
>     >   
>      <http://docs.wxwidgets.org/3.0/classwx_rich_message_dialog.html
>     <http://docs.wxwidgets.org/3.0/classwx_rich_message_dialog.html>>>
>     >     >
>     >     >         On 1/3/2018 3:13 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
>     >     >         > I figured we might want to re-use this in the
>     future if we ever have
>     >     >         > additional "show once" things that are more
>     complicated than yes/no
>     >     >         > (although I didn't make it with formbuilder).
>     >     >         > It would be fine to switch to a messagedialog.  I
>     can probably do that
>     >     >         > tonight.
>     >     >         >
>     >     >         > -Jon
>     >     >         >
>     >     >         > On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 3:09 PM, Wayne Stambaugh
>     <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>
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>     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>
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>     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>     >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
>     wrote:
>     >     >         >
>     >     >         >     John,
>     >     >         >
>     >     >         >     I took a look at your patch.  Is there any reason
>     >     why you didn't use
>     >     >         >     wxMessageDialog instead of creating wxFormbuilder
>     >     project for such a
>     >     >         >     simple dialog?  It seems to me that
>     wxMessageDialog
>     >     would do the trick
>     >     >         >     as it allows you to change the strings for the Ok
>     >     and Cancel buttons.
>     >     >         >     Other than that, everything else seems fine.
>     >     >         >
>     >     >         >     Cheers,
>     >     >         >
>     >     >         >     Wayne
>     >     >         >
>     >     >         >     On 12/31/2017 4:28 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
>     >     >         >     > For your consideration, a patch is attached that
>     >     implements the above.
>     >     >         >     >
>     >     >         >     >
>     >     >         >     > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Jon Evans
>     >     <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
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>     >     <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
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>     >     <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>>> wrote:
>     >     >         >     >
>     >     >         >     >     I think that getting automatic OpenGL
>     >     detection and recovery working
>     >     >         >     >     for 5.0 might be ambitious.
>     >     >         >     >     Maybe Chris can detail what the next
>     steps are
>     >     for his approach
>     >     >         >     >     there, but in case we want to push that to a
>     >     later release, here's
>     >     >         >     >     what I propose:
>     >     >         >     >
>     >     >         >     >     1) Rename the View menu options based on my
>     >     proposal "Legacy",
>     >     >         >     >     "Modern (Accelerated)", "Modern (Fallback)"
>     >     >         >     >     2) Change PCB_BASE_FRAME::SwitchCanvas
>     to save
>     >     the canvas config
>     >     >         >     >     value after calling UseGalCanvas()
>     rather than
>     >     before.
>     >     >         >     >     3) Show a first-run dialog like the
>     mockup in
>     >     my earlier email, IF
>     >     >         >     >     canvas is not OpenGL and the dialog has not
>     >     been shown before
>     >     >         >     >     44) If user clicks "yes" in the first run
>     >     dialog, then:
>     >     >         >     >         (a) set the config value to prevent the
>     >     dialog from showing again,
>     >     >         >     >         (b) Set the canvas config setting to
>     Cairo
>     >     (but don't switch the
>     >     >         >     >     GAL to Cairo), then
>     >     >         >     >         (c) switch to OpenGL canvas using
>     >     SwitchCanvas()
>     >     >         >     >
>     >     >         >     >     That way, if the app crashes in step 4c, it
>     >     should come back up as
>     >     >         >     >     Cairo on the next launch (assuming we crash
>     >     right away when trying
>     >     >         >     >     to set up the canvas)
>     >     >         >     >
>     >     >         >     >     Any concerns with the above?
>     >     >         >     >
>     >     >         >     >     -Jon
>     >     >         >     >
>     >     >         >     >
>     >     >         >     >
>     >     >         >     >     On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Jeff Young
>     >     <jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx
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>     >     >         <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>> wrote:
>     >     >         >     >
>     >     >         >     >         +1
>     >     >         >     >
>     >     >         >     >         No menu items.  Just a checkbox for Enable
>     >     Hardware Acceleration
>     >     >         >     >         in Preferences.
>     >     >         >     >
>     >     >         >     >>         On 31 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Andy Peters
>     >     <devel@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx>> <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx
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>     >     <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx>>> <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx
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>     >     >         <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>> wrote:
>     >     >         >     >>
>     >     >         >     >>>         - In the case of graphics glitches,
>     >     inform the users in the
>     >     >         >     >>>         FAQ/Manual
>     >     >         >     >>>         that they can fall back to software
>     >     renderer in the View menu.
>     >     >         >     >>>         - Don't use the term 'canvas' or
>     'view'.
>     >     Just 'Enable HW
>     >     >         >     >>>         acceleration’.
>     >     >         >     >>
>     >     >         >     >>         I like that. The fewer
>     >     technical/programmer terms, the better.
>     >     >         >     >
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