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Re: Python Status and a way forward

 

Hello Seth,

thank you for explaining the situation about the current situation with API. I really appreciate it. You don't have to be sorry about no having a shiny new API for v6 - the whole team have done a tremendous amount of great work and v6 look awesome! I don't know a single plugin developer who is disappointed by not having a brand new API. When it comes to myself, if I ever sounded disappointed, or I was too aggressive in my proposals, it was just because of the fact that I had no idea what to expect (and plan my development according it), not that because I wanted a new API. It just can be frustrating to not know if implementing new features will be a waste of time or not since you don't know if the upcoming version of KiCAD will break them all or not.

I am happy to inform your, that I managed to port all plugins I maintain successfully to v6 and now I am just waiting for my users to test it properly. In this regards I would like to thank especially to Jon Evans, who was really helpful with providing support, fixing regressions and answering all my questions. Finally I can migrate all my workflows to v6 and enjoy all the new features. Thank you, again, guys for your wonderful work.

If there ever will be discussion about future API/upcoming changes, it would be my pleasure to participate.

Jan

On 16. 11. 21 19:24, Seth Hillbrand wrote:
Hi Folks-

Unfortunately, we were not able to get the Python revisions into version 6.  As such, we'll be using the legacy SWIG implementation for pcbnew during v6 and will introduce the updated API early in the v7 development process.

## What happened?

Our goals for the Python API were to make a stable set of calls that plugin developers could rely on to work over multiple KiCad versions and to expand python scripting to eeschema.  This required abstracting a number of underlying concepts and re-writing a set of core applications.  And it didn't get done in time.

We decided that it was more important to get v6 out to our userbase with the status quo python scripting than for an indefinite delay to get the first API out.

## What's the plan going forward?

Following the release of v6, the KiCad core dev team will be meeting to plan out our work for v7.  One of the items on our agenda will be to review where things went well and poorly in the v6 development.  We do this with the intention of improving both our development work and our communication with the community during upcoming releases.

We're also going to be reaching out to some of our plugin developers to get their input on things that they'd like to use the API for and ways that we might be able to facilitate that in v7.  If you have interest in being a part of that discussion (and you have published a couple plugins for KiCad or other projects), please reach out.  We're happy to include you.

I deeply regret that we won't have a shiny new python interface in v6.  I know that this will be a disappointment to a number of people.  Hopefully, the major advancements that we have built into v6 will assuage that somewhat.

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Seth

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