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[Deryck Hodge <deryck.hodge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Deryck Hodge
<deryck.hodge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I realize it's trivial to override, so the question is more about our
> preference for the site.  Do we really want reverse breadcrumbs on
> almost every sub page?
>

As noted in my reply to Danilo, I chatted with Martin A. and Barry
about the questions I have about this.

To summarize my concerns, it's not that I have a problem with reverse
breadcrumbs.  That is better than no title or a terrible, useless
title.  The problem I have is that when you take the time to specify a
human readable page_tile on the view, I don't think the view code
should override that for reverse breadcrumbs.  This may plague bugs
more than any other team, as we have "bug" in several steps of our
breadcrumbs usually.

I'm also being lazy and not wanting to go touch a bunch of view
classes that we just converted to now have to specify
override_title_breadcrumbs. :)

Martin is flexible about the rule.  He just wants something as a nice
default to better help page titles for placement in Google results and
to get better page titles than we have now.  I proposed using
page_title by default if specified and falling back to reverse
breadcrumbs, assuming if the developer takes time to build a
page_title then that is preferable.  Martin was okay with this.  I
chatted with Barry about it.  He was concerned that this would
conflict with the rule for Salgado's upcoming change, meaning that if
you have page_title, you would never hit breadcrumbs, which would
negate his work.  Barry proposed using label in place of page_title or
+foo in the breadcrumbs, which would be a fallback if page_title
wasn't specified.

But the work to do this is too much given all the tests that would
have to be updated again.  I completely understand that and realize
it's less work on us bugs hackers to fix our spots.  However, like
Barry, I can't get this work scheduled before the end of the week, so
this will have to slip to next cycle.  So bugs will have to launch
with some odd looking page titles in places, which probably isn't too
huge a deal.

Barry and I agreed, assuming others are okay with the idea, that we
would like to revisit and settle the rule for the page title next
month and then do the conversion work, if needed.

Martin, Barry please feel free to clarify if I misrepresented you. :)

Cheers,
deryck



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