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["Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello everyone (it is good morning here) :)

I am going to share with you all the information I have gotten for the last
24hours so that you guys remain updated in case I will fade away for
whatever reason :P
No seriously, I must share this with you all :)

I am sending this to Team Leaders of Lubuntu + two very active members
(Lars and Nio) and CC'ing two sub-teams (Comms and Brainstorming) because
these are the people who are or should be involved, at least IMHO :)

1- This is an email from a long time Lubuntu User/Member and he knows Mario

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Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: http://lubuntu.net
To: "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>


Hi Ali,

I saw his Gmail many times so I know how he filters his mails. I know you
have already included him in recipient lists however if your mail matches
his Lubuntu's label filter he can skip your mail from his inbox. This is
why he doesn't get bothered by Lubuntu mailing list mails for years, as you
have already seen.

Just another note, he is the owner of lubuntu.net domain, it will expire in
next January, if he is not interested in or forgets to extend the domain,
we will lost it. So if he contacts you, make sure you deal with him not
only about the website or accessing acounts but also about the domain.

I hope everything will be fine soon.

Regards,
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2- I have sent this email to CC (Community Council) - that was Howard's
suggestion :

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Subject: Lubuntu Website
To: community-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Dear Community Council,

My name is Ali - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad - and I have many roles
with Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME and Ubuntu Quality. When it comes to Lubuntu -
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Lubuntu-Team - I am currently the Team
Leader of Lubuntu Brainstorming Team and active member of other Sub-Teams
within Lubuntu.

For two years now or maybe more, we have unresolved issue that despite the
fact we have tried so many times to solve the issue in a very nice, polite
and civil approaches, we have failed and we have reached to no where (dead
end).

http://www.lubuntu.net/

Simply, Lubuntu Team has no control over its own website. We have no idea
who has access to the website as of today. Previously, "Mario Behling" was
in charge but for one year and a half, no one heard a single word from him.
We have sent so many emails to the main mailing list of Lubuntu but no one
has replied yet:

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-website

And above, is a blueprint so the whole Lubuntu Community can work together
to solve this issue but lack of manpower and activities, made the progress
so slow. However, Howard Chan (smartboyhw) has suggested to approach you
and send you an email hence this message/email.

I do understand, for sure, that this is an internal issue that Lubuntu Team
must solve and fix. But, I am afraid the team couldn't do it. Sad but true.

I have so many tasks with Ubuntu GNOME Team -
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/UbuntuGNOME-Team - and no much of time but
I do love Lubuntu a lot and I couldn't remain silent so I am trying to do
something.

Kindly advise, what can we do? you know that any project/team in the world
needs a Website. The website has some mistakes and missing information. We
are simply wasting lots of time and ended banging our head against the wall
if we just want a simple edit and it is either done after so many tries or
not done. Odd enough, there is someone with access who sometimes read the
emails but he/she is totally silent and work in the shade. NO one knows who
has access and who can do some edits.

When I joined Ubuntu GNOME and Peppermint, I have had access to the
Websites form day one. I don't want to have access over Lubuntu Website, I
want Lubuntu Communications Team to have it -
https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms - and not the whole team, at least one
or two active members.

Sorry to disturb you but we are in bad need to your help. This is our last
hope!

Thank you so much :)

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3- After all the above and before I sleep, I logged in to IRC and I have
this information:


   - Beside Mario, Julien has access to the website. This is as of today.
   Before, other people used to have access but not anymore so those who can
   do any kind of update, etc are: Mario and Julien ONLY - AFAIK.
   - Julien is not replying his emails because he is very busy in Real
   Life. And, it seems that he is busy to the point that he can't read or
   reply his emails.
   - NOT sure but it seems either Julien (most likely) or Mario who did the
   last change on the website after we send lots of emails. I have seen Nio's
   email this morning and it seems the information is wrong yet again. Of
   course, there are other mistakes on the website like the wrong Twitter
   account and the slide show is telling the world that Lubuntu is shipped
   with Chromium by default while we do know starting from 13.10, Lubuntu is
   shipped with Firefox.
   - Most likely, our efforts are going to no where. Some good friends
   think whatever we are doing is useless and we will never have access to the
   website because that is the way it is for the moment. However, I personally
   will never give up unless I will be asked to shut my mouth and most likely,
   I won't listen :P
   - I have talked to someone who works with Canonical but he has no idea
   what else we could try more.
   - There are many on IRC last night who offered their help to make
   Lubuntu Website much better than the current one but of course, that can
   only be done after we solve the unsolved issue for 2 years or more now.
   - Because Lubuntu is an official flavour, Canonical has something to do
   with the website. Not sure what exactly that is but for example, I can not
   change the theme of Ubuntu GNOME website unless I submit a request to
   Canonical to do that. So, I guess same applies for Lubuntu Website.

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4- History of Lubuntu Website:
https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00845.html


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Okay, so this is all what I know regarding the website. Now, you are aware.
I hope I am not alone in this :)


Finally, there is a suggestion that some of us have already agreed to it
and we are waiting for Rafael's approval:
https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00889.html

I just updated the blueprint.


Rafael is busy. He didn't tell me but I know that because he is not
replying. I have worked with him for 2 years and if he is about, he will
reply right away.


Thank you so much!
-- 
Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
Best Regards,
amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
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