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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thank you for the update
Best regards/Nio

On 2013-11-13 08:40, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> Hello everyone (it is good morning here) :)
> 
> I am going to share with you all the information I have gotten for the
> last 24hours so that you guys remain updated in case I will fade away
> for whatever reason :P
> No seriously, I must share this with you all :)
> 
> I am sending this to Team Leaders of Lubuntu + two very active members
> (Lars and Nio) and CC'ing two sub-teams (Comms and Brainstorming)
> because these are the people who are or should be involved, at least IMHO :)
> 
> 1- This is an email from a long time Lubuntu User/Member and he knows Mario
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: http://lubuntu.net
> To: "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>>
> 
> 
> Hi Ali,
> 
> I saw his Gmail many times so I know how he filters his mails. I know
> you have already included him in recipient lists however if your mail
> matches his Lubuntu's label filter he can skip your mail from his inbox.
> This is why he doesn't get bothered by Lubuntu mailing list mails for
> years, as you have already seen.
> 
> Just another note, he is the owner of lubuntu.net <http://lubuntu.net>
> domain, it will expire in next January, if he is not interested in or
> forgets to extend the domain, we will lost it. So if he contacts you,
> make sure you deal with him not only about the website or accessing
> acounts but also about the domain.
> 
> I hope everything will be fine soon.
> 
> Regards,
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> 2- I have sent this email to CC (Community Council) - that was Howard's
> suggestion :
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>>
> Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:51 PM
> Subject: Lubuntu Website
> To: community-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:community-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> 
> Dear Community Council,
> 
> My name is Ali - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad - and I have many
> roles with Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME and Ubuntu Quality. When it comes to
> Lubuntu - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Lubuntu-Team - I am currently
> the Team Leader of Lubuntu Brainstorming Team and active member of other
> Sub-Teams within Lubuntu.
> 
> For two years now or maybe more, we have unresolved issue that despite
> the fact we have tried so many times to solve the issue in a very nice,
> polite and civil approaches, we have failed and we have reached to no
> where (dead end).
> 
> http://www.lubuntu.net/
> 
> Simply, Lubuntu Team has no control over its own website. We have no
> idea who has access to the website as of today. Previously, "Mario
> Behling" was in charge but for one year and a half, no one heard a
> single word from him. We have sent so many emails to the main mailing
> list of Lubuntu but no one has replied yet:
> 
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-website
> 
> And above, is a blueprint so the whole Lubuntu Community can work
> together to solve this issue but lack of manpower and activities, made
> the progress so slow. However, Howard Chan (smartboyhw) has suggested to
> approach you and send you an email hence this message/email.
> 
> I do understand, for sure, that this is an internal issue that Lubuntu
> Team must solve and fix. But, I am afraid the team couldn't do it. Sad
> but true.
> 
> I have so many tasks with Ubuntu GNOME Team -
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/UbuntuGNOME-Team - and no much of time
> but I do love Lubuntu a lot and I couldn't remain silent so I am trying
> to do something.
> 
> Kindly advise, what can we do? you know that any project/team in the
> world needs a Website. The website has some mistakes and missing
> information. We are simply wasting lots of time and ended banging our
> head against the wall if we just want a simple edit and it is either
> done after so many tries or not done. Odd enough, there is someone with
> access who sometimes read the emails but he/she is totally silent and
> work in the shade. NO one knows who has access and who can do some edits.
> 
> When I joined Ubuntu GNOME and Peppermint, I have had access to the
> Websites form day one. I don't want to have access over Lubuntu Website,
> I want Lubuntu Communications Team to have it -
> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms
> <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-comms> - and not the whole team, at
> least one or two active members.
> 
> Sorry to disturb you but we are in bad need to your help. This is our
> last hope!
> 
> Thank you so much :)
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 3- After all the above and before I sleep, I logged in to IRC and I have
> this information:
> 
>   * Beside Mario, Julien has access to the website. This is as of today.
>     Before, other people used to have access but not anymore so those
>     who can do any kind of update, etc are: Mario and Julien ONLY - AFAIK.
>   * Julien is not replying his emails because he is very busy in Real
>     Life. And, it seems that he is busy to the point that he can't read
>     or reply his emails.
>   * NOT sure but it seems either Julien (most likely) or Mario who did
>     the last change on the website after we send lots of emails. I have
>     seen Nio's email this morning and it seems the information is wrong
>     yet again. Of course, there are other mistakes on the website like
>     the wrong Twitter account and the slide show is telling the world
>     that Lubuntu is shipped with Chromium by default while we do know
>     starting from 13.10, Lubuntu is shipped with Firefox.
>   * Most likely, our efforts are going to no where. Some good friends
>     think whatever we are doing is useless and we will never have access
>     to the website because that is the way it is for the moment.
>     However, I personally will never give up unless I will be asked to
>     shut my mouth and most likely, I won't listen :P
>   * I have talked to someone who works with Canonical but he has no idea
>     what else we could try more.
>   * There are many on IRC last night who offered their help to make
>     Lubuntu Website much better than the current one but of course, that
>     can only be done after we solve the unsolved issue for 2 years or
>     more now.
>   * Because Lubuntu is an official flavour, Canonical has something to
>     do with the website. Not sure what exactly that is but for example,
>     I can not change the theme of Ubuntu GNOME website unless I submit a
>     request to Canonical to do that. So, I guess same applies for
>     Lubuntu Website.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 4- History of Lubuntu Website:
> https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00845.html
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> Okay, so this is all what I know regarding the website. Now, you are
> aware. I hope I am not alone in this :)
> 
> 
> Finally, there is a suggestion that some of us have already agreed to it
> and we are waiting for Rafael's approval:
> https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00889.html
> 
> I just updated the blueprint.
> 
> 
> Rafael is busy. He didn't tell me but I know that because he is not
> replying. I have worked with him for 2 years and if he is about, he will
> reply right away.
> 
> 
> Thank you so much!
> 
> -- 
> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> Best Regards,
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