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[Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Just my thoughts...

I hate 'councils' with a passion. I also hate the badge of 'team leader'
for the sub-groups. All any team requires is an admin person who looks
after the day to day 'paper work'. The lubunteers do the work and chat to
each other all the time. I fail to see how a 'council' would help in any
way and also feel it would drive people away. Let me just remind you of a
'rule' of freenode which is about catalysts.....

http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml

I broke that, and resigned from my positions; but I do ask that you
consider this...

... not through the use of authority and special privilege, ....

When ubuntu-beginners created a council, it was the death, UBT no longer
exists.

So, other lubunteers, please think long and hard about raising a 'council';
IMHO, it is a really bad idea and even though I have stepped down from
'official' stuff... I wanted to let you know my thoughts.

My kindest regards,

Phill.




On 15 November 2013 20:26, Federico Leoni <effelle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 2013/11/15 David Yentzen <dbyentzen@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <
> amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Lubuntu Community,
> >>
> >> Kindly have a read at this Blueprint/Proposal:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-community-council
> >>
> >> And, if you are using a Cell Phone or any device and for whatever reason
> >> can't access the link, here is the text:
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Lubuntu Community Council is my proposal/idea to clean the current mess
> in
> >> Lubuntu Community and solve the pending issues that the community is
> facing
> >> in order to move forward to build a healthy community and a rock solid
> >> system for old machines with LTS.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Given Information:
> >> ------------------------------
> >> 1- Lubuntu Community Has NO Actual Leader Starting from 15-May-2012 -
> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001516.html
> >>
> >> 2- Lubuntu Community and Sub-Teams are a real mess. Lubuntu
> Communications
> >> Sub-Team and Lubuntu QA Team are both without 'Active' Team Leaders. The
> >> whole team needs a clean up, reorganize and re-assessment.
> >>
> >> 3- The Activities of the Community has dropped due to lack of
> >> communications and some core old members of the team has
> left/quit/resigned
> >> and the rest are inactive and only very few are still active but that
> is not
> >> enough.
> >>
> >> 4- Lubuntu 13.10 was a bit of disappointment for as per users and
> members
> >> feedback and some nasty bugs.
> >>
> >> -----------------
> >> Roadmap:
> >> -----------------
> >> A- Not only one person must lead Lubuntu but instead of that, a
> Community
> >> Council consists of many members - the idea inspired by:
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil
> >>
> >> B- LCC (Lubuntu Community Council) elect one member to lead this
> Community
> >> Council at the very beginning of each release cycle  and this election
> will
> >> take place every 6 months. Members of LCC will elect their leaders.
> >>
> >> C- This is a NON-Technical Board or Council.
> >>
> >> D- This Council is in charge of:
> >> 1- Lubuntu Guards and Keepers - make sure everything goes as smooth as
> >> possible and make sure Ubuntu Code of Conducts applies and everyone
> respects
> >> the other.
> >> 2- Make sure to build a healthy community based on Team Work, Sharing
> and
> >> Motivation.
> >> 3- No Dictatorship: No one will lead the whole community but instead a
> >> group of people will do that.
> >> 4- Any Lubuntu Member can be a member of this Community Council.
> >> 5- Team Leaders of Lubuntu Sub-Teams are members of this Council.
> >>
> >> E- Requirements:
> >> 1- Must be Active Lubuntu Member at least for 6 months Minimum.
> >> 2- Members must have proven record of some Lubuntu Community Experience
> >> (NON-Technical) and members with minimum one year with Lubuntu
> Community are
> >> preferred.
> >> 3- Technical People can join but the above points (#1 and #2) must
> apply.
> >> 4- Must sign Ubuntu Code of Conducts.
> >> 5- Must have a Wiki Page.
> >> 6- Must have proven record of team work.
> >> 7- Friendly and nice.
> >> 8- Must communicate.
> >> 9- Must leave a note if he/she is busy or will be away.
> >> 10- Before stepping down, must give a notice
> >>
> >> F- Decision Making:
> >> Lubuntu Community Council is in charge of decision making and the future
> >> of Lubuntu is between the hands of this council. HOWEVER, NO decision
> to be
> >> made UNLESS the whole community (members+users) must be aware of that -
> to
> >> send an email to the mailing list. Some decisions can be made by this
> >> council if and only if it is a derision that requires a high skill of
> >> Community Experience + Technical Experience which other users may not
> meet
> >> this requirement. But all in all, each and every decision will be made
> >> publicly.
> >>
> >> G- Meeting:
> >> Lubuntu Community Council must have at least one meeting per month. Even
> >> better, one meeting every two weeks if possible. After the meeting, the
> log
> >> must be shared with everyone belong to Lubuntu Community + must be
> published
> >> on Lubuntu Social Media
> >>
> >> H- Launchpad:
> >> This Council must have a Launchpad Team +  a Mailing List. The
> >> owner/creator of that team on Launchpad is NOT necessarily the leader of
> >> this Council.  He/She could be anyone who would like to help to set up
> this
> >> area.
> >>
> >> I- This proposal idea will be on this blueprint. Lubuntu Brainstorming
> >> Team will be assigned to this proposal. Team Leader of Lubuntu
> Brainstorming
> >> Team must send an email to both Lubuntu Brainstorming Team + The General
> >> Mailing List.
> >>
> >> J- Discussion will be made here and if most of the active members of
> >> Lubuntu Community Agree, this idea will be implemented immediately.
> >>
> >> K- Lubuntu Community Members can propose some changes on the above but
> >> must communicate first with Lubuntu Brainstorming Team before doing
> >> anything. Or simply, just add your comment to the whiteboard.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >>
> >> amjjawad
> >> Lubuntu Brainstorming Team Leader
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad
> >>
> >> --
> >> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> >> Best Regards,
> >> amjjawad
> >> Areas of Involvement
> >> My Projects
> >>
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> >
> >
> > Dear Lubuntu Community,
> >   +1 This is an excellent idea. Lubuntu, in the long term, is better off
> > being led by a rotating group of active members of the community. This
> > ensures the workload and tasks of the community are shared among members
> and
> > avoids individual member burnout or overburden.
> > If this is not done and Lubuntu continues in its current direction, I do
> not
> > hold high hopes for it long-term. Every organization, at some point in
> its
> > early development, makes the transition from a small size to a larger
> more
> > complex size. How successfully this is done determines, in a large way,
> the
> > long-term success of the organization. The community council model is the
> > best way to ensure Lubuntu's continued existence because it more fairly
> > distributes the tasks and no one person becomes overburdened.
> >  Let's move forward.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > David Yentzen
> > https://launchpad.net/~dbyentzen
> >
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> I agree Ali,
>
> this could be a good way to back on track, and Lubuntu really needs
> that now. LTS is not so far as we can think and without a good
> reorganization we will fail. The problem is, who could be a member of
> the new council? Not me, as you know Ali I can't assume control on any
> Team now, nor help constantly. My real life (and my new business
> incoming) first. Beside that I travel A LOT, so would be difficult to
> properly follow a project.
>
> Mmmmm.... Curiously I'm still here working for testing/QA. :)
>
> F.
>
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