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Re: Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)
Hi guys, why dont we move this to the forum where it can be easier to document and organize these conversations?
also on that topic, in my opinion, we need to divide us into work partners, as right now, there is much discussion and no work being done. I think the first step, is quite simply that a select few people, who know LXDE and ubuntu the best, that they can create a base system that we can work with. this system should be very small, and include nothing but the neccesairy files to run lxde on ubuntu, as well as synaptic. that way, we can all have the same base system to work with, and test things out with.
Jon York
From: wiebelhaus@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:41:09 -0500
To: lubuntu-desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)
Stabilized without hiccups at 128mb ram , that's without youtube lagging out , you can go lower no doubt.
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Dallas Wiebelhaus <wiebelhaus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
By the way , Chrome fits in like it's native and is running hella fast on this DE on my test box. I'm about to crank the ram down and see how low I can get.
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Andrew Woodhead <andrew.woodhead666@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This is kinda surplus, the system is still ubuntu based so the standard repos can be used to install apps if they are needed.
If the OS is going to be as it says below, you may as well install a minimal install then have a gui to select apps which can then be installed off the repos. This however isn't the case, we are trying to make a smalland efficient distro with a decent amount of functionality without bloating the system with the likes of evolution, openoffice and firefox. These are fully installable once the installation has completed but the initial base system should be slick and quick
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:14 AM, C David Rigby <c.david.rigby@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 18:40 +0100, Ed Hewitt and several others wrote:
<discussion of "keep it light" or "feature complete" elided>
Restating the obvious, but the engineering trade off is always between
"ease of use/fully featured" on the one hand and lightweight on the
other. The necessary criterion is to decide what we really want to
build, and make it unique and useful enough to attract interest.
I've proposed it before, but I'll say it again as more people are on the
list now (sorry that I've missed the IRC meetings for the last two weeks
where the app mix has been the topic of discussion). How about the
possibility of a very slim base install with the installer offering
"bundles" to meet individual needs and desires? Something like the
FreeBSD or Debian text installers comes to mind.
The base installation would be just a command-line, network-capable
system plus enough of X to get LXDE operational. We would be pushing the
real work to the installer. The installer, whether text-based or
grahpical, would need to provide a lot of choices of bundles to
install.
More importantly, I think the installer should provide something I have
yet to see. That something is extensive documentation of the choices of
bundles of applications, and what they mean in terms of system
performance vs features. It should be organized so that a savvy user
could bypass the explanations (or load a jumpstart script), but a novice
would get a detailed explanation of what the choices are and what they
mean for the final installed system.
My $0.02.
Cheers
C David Rigby
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