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[Goh Lip <g.lip@xxxxxxx>]

On Mon, 24 May 2010 13:36:15 +0100
Andrew Woodhead <andrew.woodhead666@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Yeah, if there is enough RAM then (at least the LiveCD) the OS in
> full can be put into RAM. Disk access is god slow compared to RAM so
> if we can get the RAM off the slow media then the system will BLAZE
> as the drive will never be accessed, this will however mean the
> selected contents of the system due to be in RAM will need copying
> (either all at once or as it is needed) to the RAM for future use.
> 
> Puppy has a cheat code to simply copy the OS from the CD in this way
> and make it incredibly fast, at 80Mb for the ISO this can also be
> done on old systems and they will run very well.
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:31 PM, C David Rigby
> <c.david.rigby@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> 
> >  On Monday 24,May,2010 08:25 PM, Andrew Woodhead wrote:
> >
> > I'm kinda up for a "Run the whole OS in RAM". like puppy has if its
> > THAT small. Who's with me. There is a guide on this which I intend
> > to use in my next system / this laptop if I get bored.
> >
> >  To what guide are you referring? Load the OS into a ramdisk?
> >
> > Cheers
> > David
> >
> >  On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Leszek Lesner
> > <leszek.lesner@xxxxxx>wrote:
> >
> >> Am 24.05.2010 07:06, schrieb ryan14@xxxxxxxx:
> >>
> >>  How much GB of disk space(including swap) does a full install of
> >> lubuntu-10.04 use if installing from the lubuntu-10.04.iso CD?
> >> 2GB? 3GB?

> >>  If you have more then 1 GB RAM you don't neccessarly need a SWAP
> >> partition.
> >> If you don't consider double the RAM size to use for SWAP.
> >>
> >> Lubuntu uses about 1.5 GB of space right after installation. So the
> >> minimum space you need is 2 GB I would say.
> >> I recommened 4 to 5 GB to have it running good and be able to
> >> install additional software + personal data.


Re: Swap.......

>From what I can tell - running, not installing Lubuntu - having a ram of
1 Gb (maybe 512 Mb) or more obviates the need of having swap, (unless
for suspend/hibernate). The point about having swap is usually moot. If
one is fastidious, create a swap and list it in fstab a size slightly
more than ram.

Re: Toram......

>From what I understand, 'toram' 's utility is loading to ram instead of
reading from livecd's. The operative word here is 'cdrom' and the
reasoning is the lower read and transfer speed of *cdrom*. Using
Lubuntu from a SATA hard drive or from a usb flash drive makes having
'toram' in Lubuntu an unnecessary diversion.

Also, I think but I am not sure, toram is already available in casper -
that's the livecd boot for Lubuntu, if one wants to use regularly, which
is, in any case, unusual other than for testing purposes.

DSL use of boot parameter 'dsl=toram' is entered at boot screen for 
cdrom and is unnecessary for flash boots. Puppy linux surreptitiously
creates a partition (albeit small) at the hard drive so that changes
can be kept there and transfered to the flash when shutting down and
its function is not to speed up its system.

It's good to look for things to improve in Lubuntu and I do not want to
discourage that, but maybe we should be looking for something else.

Regards - Goh Lip