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On 06/04/2010 09:19 AM, Phillip Whiteside wrote:
Hi, I've just had a chat with one of those 'very nice people' over on ubuntu about something I saw happen on #ubuntu-beginners the other day, that being a an idiot in the room breaking all the rules for politeness on IRC and also using swear words. On that occasion there were 'OP's in the room and also available who kicked him off (He actually got K-lined from freenode for those who know the difference). Currently /msg chanserv access #lubuntu list will show you the access list. hyperair and elfgoh are both OPs there Whilst I hope that #lubuntu will not get that sort of abuse, could the team think along the lines of how #ubuntu-beginners runs and grant OP status to a few of those who are regulars so that they would be able to act if a 'saddo' / 'troll' etc comes by? Regards, Phill.
Perhaps we can ask newcomers to read http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct and adhere to it.It would also be good if there is one or two moderators on this list who would remind anyone who breaks the rules and have the power to suspend him from the list, if necessary.
The ubuntu-users mailing list tends to be abusive too and there are people who gives advice badly. There is certainly room for improvement and I hope this lubuntu list can remain civil, polite and helpful.
The kubuntu-users list is quite friendly, helpful and cheerful. Sometimes there are 'stragglers' from the ubuntu list but when they misbehave, they are usually shooed away by the kubuntu users themselves.
Of course the quality of any list depends ultimately on the users themselves but there must be a mechanism to prevent spam, flaming and trolling.
This is usually not in the code of conduct, but since this is an international mailing list, I'd recommend that any signature of a political, religious or anti-religious sentiment be removed.
Admittedly, it is not easy to handle the multi faceted mix of users. For example, some, when rebuked about their offensive or profane statements, may claim 'cultural licence' - I am from New York, people are not so thin-skinned - or a guy who starts his posts with a long winded capital-lettered tribute to god. I would not envy the moderator.
Regards - Goh Lip
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